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To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (15915)5/18/1998 8:50:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson  Respond to of 39621
 
Shucks Ann you want to upset them more than I have. The truth from 2 people arent worth the lies of millions of brainwashed people.

Poor, Poor us. Just ask them. If you don't have lust & greed to overcome they come up with sins of Omission for the things you should-da done.

Heard of A Catholic Priest in Chicago who posted a sign outside the parish. All sins half price this week only.

And wouldn't you know God sent me the blessing of having a Church of Christ preacher for a son in law. Other than being a preacher a pretty good old boy. You think we haven't talked to wee small hours. After 25 years of this he now at least says he understands our religion is very similar just understanding bible interpretations differ.



To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (15915)5/18/1998 8:59:00 PM
From: DLL  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
Ann;

Two things. First right from the start in the Hebrew Torah, women are esteemed by God.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
This is the beautiful picture of equality that God intends us to have, it is obvious that humankind wants no part of God's standards for he is continually ignored. The fact that imperfect men have not obeyed is not God's fault. We all should listen to him more.

Second. It seems to me that if the fact that women give birth would give them an unfair advantage over men. This is because women have a natural connection to their children (through bonding of feeding, smell, and the physical bond of birth) that men cannot. To me the fact that God called men to lead is probably a responsibility God gave because men are less responsible. Men can impregnate and leave, and this is not what God wants from us. His insistence that men take a leadership role says more about the inadequacies of men than of women. I also think that had men not been given this role, they would become virtually unnecessary because of the natural connection to the mother. To me this is a beautiful picture of Gods design. That a man leave his mother and father, cleave to his wife and out of loving sacrifice care for her needs, while she cares for the needs of the children. I am not suggesting subservience, only that the pain of bringing a child into the world helps to motivate women to put their children first. While I as a man find it easier to put my wife first and this completes the picture. I do not mean she should have to be the care giver, only that this be her orientation in the family. I know this seems old fashioned, but if everyone submits to Gods will it can be a very workable relationship. INHO God designed it that way because he knew men would be the problem, not women.

In Yeshua's love for all people - DLL

PS If you look at Genesis you will see that God did not differentiate. Adam named women. God said when he saw Adam he was incomplete. It was not until there was a woman that he looked at the two of them and called them man. It took both halves to complete the love of God, and both are equally important in his eyes.