SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Technology Stocks : PairGain Technologies -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: RANDY DAVIS who wrote (23609)5/19/1998 10:47:00 PM
From: Joe Pirate  Respond to of 36349
 
Buying PAIR at $17.25 and selling JUNE 17.5 calls against
your shares for $1.00 is not a bad idea. If PAIR
is $17.5 or greater by expiration, your max profit is 1.25 per share.

If PAIR is less than $17.5 on expiration day, you still keep
your shares and you always keep the $1.00

Usually, they don't take away your shares until options expiration
because the option contract just keeps changing hands. There is
~5 weeks till options expire so you may miss out a little pop to
$19 ?? which would be more profitable, and then you don't have
to wait.

Pirate



To: RANDY DAVIS who wrote (23609)5/19/1998 11:01:00 PM
From: michael modeme  Respond to of 36349
 
Randy, If you have a bit of a mathematical background, there's a nice probablistic way of calculating your return based on a given senario. You can even calculate the maximum return senario given the assumption of a specific stochastic process for the stock. What you do is assume the stock price is equal to exp{ W(t) + A(t)}; where W(t) is a Wiener process and A(t) is a predictable process (measureable to the filtration F(t-1)), then calculate the value of your portfolio given this process, and plug in statistical estimates for the mean increase in the stock and the variability (beta) of the stock. Then you use typical techniques to maximize the senario (solutions to the PDE dS(b,t)/dt = 0). I'm really busy or I'd do the calculations. Good luck. Cheers



To: RANDY DAVIS who wrote (23609)5/19/1998 11:31:00 PM
From: margin_man  Respond to of 36349
 
It's not a bad idea if you're not on margin.
In any case, it's better to hold PAIR and wait for a pop. More upside
than downside at this point. IMO.

Good luck,
P.




To: RANDY DAVIS who wrote (23609)5/20/1998 3:25:00 AM
From: ratan lal  Respond to of 36349
 
Selling covered calls on a stock you feel (believe) will go up before next options expiration is a BAD idea.

1. You give up the potential profit
2. If the stock rises soon as you sell the call, you will hate yourself having to look at all the profit you are losing. You will not be able to sell your stock and you will hesitate to buy back your call at a higher price essentially booking a loss.
3. If the stock drops in price, the drop in the covered call will be only a small % of the drop in stock price. Once again you will hate yourself for having to look at the drop in price of your stock and being helpless in getting out. First you would have to buy back the call before you can act on your stock.

Basically, the call becomes a trap, a sort of chain around tour ankles. Whether the price of the stock goes up or down, you will not be able to act till expiration. All you can do is look on helplessly from the sidelines.

Is it worth the potential $1.25 that you MAY make in 5-weeks ?? You decide.

ratan



To: RANDY DAVIS who wrote (23609)5/20/1998 10:56:00 AM
From: ELFRAM LYEW  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36349
 
I think to sell covered call of Jun 17.5 at $1 is not bad idea. Some people think you may lose more profit if the stock price goes up, said $20. Dont worry. If that happens. only you need to do is buy back the calls at $2.5 then sell Jul 22.5. Ofcurse, this is a protective move. you sell CC because of possible price drop.