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To: Lucretius who wrote (349)5/20/1998 8:15:00 PM
From: waverider  Respond to of 14427
 
To you bears. From the permabull.

Message 4535586

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To: Lucretius who wrote (349)5/20/1998 11:20:00 PM
From: Teddy  Respond to of 14427
 
RE: IBM and Dell.
Luc, please stop posting such stupid things
Dell will be $100 before the week is over. As for your "news" of IBM insider selling: is this your first day in the Market? <g>

Wrong! Rear Echelon Revelations:
Cramer on Insider Selling Scandals That Aren't

By James J. Cramer
5/20/98 9:33 AM ET

Why doesn't the Journal just come out and say Lou
Gerstner pumped and dumped IBM (IBM:NYSE) stock?
That's certainly the implication from a story buried on page
B-10, headed "IBM's Gerstner Sold Share Block on Heels of
Optimistic Report." The story goes on to say that right after
Gerstner had spoken enthusiastically about IBM's
prospects, he unloaded 138,000 shares into an unknowing
public.

Big scandal? Insider trading? Massive manipulator?

Wrong!

Once upon a time the newspapers of this country were
oblivious to executives who blew out stock knowing bad
news was coming. The press let lots of conniving execs
unload stock on unsuspecting people. Lots of little people
got hurt.

Now, though, the press seeks to be the Lincoln Steffens of
insider selling, the muckraker intent on exposing any deed,
no matter how insignificant, as it might signal chicanery. We
have now swung too far the other way.

The ultimate extension of this pursuit is today's blast at
Gerstner, an exec who has distinguished himself for giving
maximum disclosure to virtually everything he has done
since taking over the reins at IBM.

That's why I cringed when I read this story. Because I know
the truth about insider selling and its timing. There is no
more fair time to sell than after a public airing about how a
company is doing. That's when we all have a level playing
field. That's when we all know equal amounts about how
things are doing. That's precisely when an exec should be
allowed to sell without catcalls or questions of character
being brought up by the press.

Many companies have windows about when they can sell,
so they are not running afoul of selling when they know
something proprietary and others don't. Most of these rules
involve selling right after a quarter is reported. I can't tell you
how many times I have listened to execs talk positively
about their stocks and then read that they sold some a few
days later.

My reaction is always the same: So what? When are they
supposed to sell, when no one knows anything other than
themselves? That would be the real crime. That would be
when I would become indignant. Imagine, had Gerstner just
sold stock without giving the company's status, wouldn't we
all believe he knew something and didn't tell us?

The press has to develop a standard that accepts some
periodic insider selling without presuming some sort of guilt.
I can't tell you how many times insiders have sold Dell
(DELL:Nasdaq), Microsoft (MSFT:Nasdaq), Intel
(INTC:Nasdaq), etc., and the press has written it in a "do
they know something that we don't?" tone. Now when
Gerstner obviously knows nothing we don't know, he gets
blasted, too.

Of course, the presumption is that Gerstner was wildly
bullish on the call and moved his own stock up so he could
sell it. But as I wrote in my piece after listening to the call,
reasonable people would disagree whether it was that
bullish.

Anyway, Lou, accept my apologies from someone who
wears both hats: You didn't do anything wrong in spirit or in
letter. Sorry you had to have a rotten day because of this
headline. Personally, I hope the stock gets hit on this bit of
foolishness, so I can buy more. You can't having just sold
stock, but I know you would, too.

James J. Cramer is manager of a hedge fund and
co-chairman of TheStreet.com. At time of publication his
fund is long Dell, IBM, Intel and Microsoft, although
positions can change at any time. Under no circumstances
does the information in this column represent a
recommendation to buy or sell stocks. Mr. Cramer's writings
provide insights into the dynamics of money management
and are not a solicitation for transactions. While he cannot
provide investment advice or recommendations, he
welcomes your feedback, emailed to Jjc@thestreet.com.



To: Lucretius who wrote (349)5/20/1998 11:29:00 PM
From: Teddy  Respond to of 14427
 
Oh, maybe you should reread this part of your original post:
It was the first time since he joined the
computer company in 1993 that Mr. Gerstner
has sold IBM shares on the open market....
The shares that Mr. Gerstner sold represent a
little more than 3% of his total IBM holdings. Mr. Gerstner has options on
about 4.1 million IBM shares along with 153,000 restricted shares. He
also has been an active buyer of IBM shares on the open market, having
acquired 306,422 shares since he first came to the company.


First time he sold since 1993!
3% of his total holdings!
Sounds extreemly bullish to me.

He still has more than 4 million shares. he bought over 300,000, uh, how many did he sell? 138,000 after five years? Yeah, looks like he is bailing out as fast as he can.<VBG>
Note: Teddy has never owned shares of IBM, but continues to rate them a strong buy. He also enjoys making fun of people that buy gold.