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To: waverider who wrote (22635)5/21/1998 5:00:00 PM
From: Bazmataz  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
OT: We are a grim bunch, aren't we? Everyone says let's do what let's us sleep and play in peace. But DO WE? Noooooo.. We spend our time reading SI, checking quotes, and calculating just how much money we made or lost each moment of our lives. Check out our friend Lucretius, who posts all hours of the day and night. Does that guy ever sleep? Does he have a beeper attached to his "inbox" on SI? (Just tossing a friendly jab your way, Luc.ggg) He's probably a really tame, laid-back guy on weekends and holidays. He might even be someone LongOnDELL could get along with! His posts sure become a bit nicer/more mellow when the markets are closed than when they are open.ggg NO wonder we're so much more peaceful on weekends and holidays - the market's not open!ggg

I don't like much of what Peter Lynch writes, but some things he says ring true, I believe. One thing is that the more frequently you watch your stocks, the more likely you are to do the WRONG thing. Usually, that means selling when things are heading south (because you're so emotionally punished and tortured watching your hard-earned money disappear into someone else's pockets) or when things are heading north (because you're afraid of missing the boat, train, rocket, or whatever sails, rides or blasts off when stocks go up!).

While I understand everything above, and I'm sure everyone here does, it's very difficult to practice and I'll admit that. That's why I set my stops and let em stick.

The honest truth is that, for a non-short term investor, now is probably a good time to buy some of these stocks. But that's why I always post and ask who's really buying? We are a great study in market psychology, friends....

Thanks for listening... comments, as always, are appreciated..

Baz



To: waverider who wrote (22635)5/21/1998 5:26:00 PM
From: Gator II  Respond to of 95453
 
Bravos to both jbe and Diamond H, very well written! However, the market is soooo seductive and the leverage of options and buying on margin (also leverage) feels sooooo good when it works. However, it has been my experience, as others have been alluding to, that the _fear_ or more precisely the actual _agony_ of loss has always been greater than the _elation_ of victory.

Solution, cut losses quick and let winners run. Of course that's easier said than done. If one chooses to play, the oil patch is, IMHO, the place to play. Also, of course, anyone reading here, already knows this.

Gator II

"greedfeargreedfeargreedfeargreedfeargreedfeargreedfeargreedfeargreed"



To: waverider who wrote (22635)5/21/1998 10:53:00 PM
From: jbe  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 95453
 
Thanks to Diamond, Baird, MonsieurGonzo, and all the others who responded (variously, of course) to my questions.

Let me answer you, one at a time.

Diamond, since you, too, will be writing for a living soon, you will learn that everything is grist for a writer's mill, even -- or perhaps I should say especially distressing and unpleasant experiences. (The only experience I would exclude is one's own death, because one can't write about that.)

So, even if the market grinds us up and spits us out -- we can write about it! And maybe even make some money doing it!

On a more serious note, however, let me say that I can't quite agree that "...long-term investing shouldn't take a lot of time IF you do the right research in the first place." That is, I would agree if the "you" involved is 1) a full-fledged financial analyst, or 2) a specialist who is investing in the one sector he knows inside out.

There is a financial columnist who writes for the Washington Post every Sunday -- James Glassman -- who has done more than anyone else, in my opinion, to propagandize the myth that if you do your research "right" and choose your stocks "correctly," you can then just stash them away and relax and check your stock quotations no more than once a month. I like Glassman, but that is flapdoodle! Irresponsible flapdoodle!

Even with the finest companies, sh*t happens, and if you aren't looking when it happens, your goose is cooked. Things move too fast, so if you want to invest in individual stocks on your own, you absolutely must keep up with the latest company/industry/stock market/international news, which is, no matter how you slice it, time-consuming.

My original question, as you recall, was, basically: why do it yourself if you can't beat the mutual funds, let alone the market indices?

I would say there's no point at all -- unless you get a bang out of it. And I would say, reading some of your responses, that many of you really do.

Revelation! It isn't really about money! (If it were, I'd hazard the guess that most folks here, like myself, would indeed be better advised to hand it all over to the Heartland Value Fund, as Diamond suggested, or better yet, to any European fund.) It isn't even about greed/fear, greed/fear, greed/fear. It's about the excitement! The risk! The danger! The thrill of the roller-coaster! The thrill, in short, of war!

Actually, I recently had occasion to experience my first war (as an observer, only), and I must confess that I came to understand why some people become addicted to it. I am a peacenik. But let's face it, peace can be boring. War is, if nothing else, exciting (for non-combatants too). You are more alive when your life is at risk!

So, I presume, it's back to the battlefield?

jbe