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To: Father Terrence who wrote (21905)	5/22/1998 8:38:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

> in effect a trade of value for that which is valueless< One would have to accept your conclusion that everything that could be done with tax money is valueless. Do I support everything that is currently done with my tax dollars? I loudly yell NO. But do I want a society in which the haves do not share with the have nots? No. And do you know why? Because I am selfish, but in an altruistic way. In order to effectively "exploit" every citizen of this country we first need to make our citizens exploitable. And the best kind of exploitation (and I am using the definition of exploit as follows- to put to productive use) is the kind where people agree to be put to their best use. But frequently this requires an investment in the human capital, and this, IMO, begins before the cradle. It begins with an investment in the parents, to make them better parents. It begins with assuring healthy babies, so our human capital will be born undamaged. It then progresses to assuring that our fledgling little human hunks of capital will grow up educated and protected from harm- so that they may function at optimal efficiency and not be a drag on society. And all this requires investment- farsighted long term investment planning for the society of the future, when the babies of today, work in the nursing homes of tomorrow and take care of US.

To: Father Terrence who wrote (21905)	5/23/1998 3:07:00 AM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Terrence, my idea of Man includes the very logical observation that people are born helpless, have very long infancies and childhoods, are most productive during the earlier and middle part of their adulthoods, and sometimes become helpless and dependent again when they are old. Tax and family structures should be sturdy and strong enough to try to protect us to some degree against accidents of birth and fate, and to ensure that the young are healthy enough to survive and prosper and take care of the old. Did you know that female elephants in a herd adopt motherless babies? Or that the elderly are protected and respected? That they seem to understand the life cycle, and mourn their dead? I heard something the other day which I found very interesting, if it is true--man is the only animal that kills purely for pleasure. Can we expect less of man than the altruistic behavior exhibited by the higher animals? I hope not!