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To: Mr. Aloha who wrote (44583)5/23/1998 3:52:00 PM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 176387
 
Hi Mr. Aloha; Regarding those high priced personal
computers. My ex's '486's SRAM battery went out and
apparently so did the floppy drives, so I convinced her
to get a new machine.

A 166MHz Pentium was had for $500, with 8xCD, 16MB,
2GB, 3.5", phone connections, fax capability, etc.

I threw her old IDE hard disk (128MB) and 5.25" floppy
into the new machine and I am sure it will completely
satisfy her needs for another 6 years. Probably the
monitor will blow before then... But all she wants to
run is a little word processing, and maybe someday
hook up to the internet.

On the other hand, her buddy bought a $3500 new
machine.

I always buy around $2000 machines, cause they
play games better.

Place I last worked at provided very minimal machines
to typical employees. I screamed for 6 months and finally
got a dual 300MHz Pro. They only gave it to me cause
I was routing gate arrays and needed the processor
speed.

My observation right now is that software is not burning
up the megabytes and megaflops as fast as they used to.
As business needs become standardized and computer
usage more predictable, computers will devolve to
standard commodity machines, and very, very, very
low prices.

When I was a youth, the standard business machine,
found in multiple quantities in every office, was a
Selectric typewriter. Sure these are now obsolete,
but there was a 20 (?) year period where that was
the only thing businesses bought. Employees were
expected to be expert with them and them alone.

IBM made a lot of money building Selectric type
writers, it was a very profitable business for a very
long time. The design was protected by patents,
and companies didn't trust their competitor's
products. IBM had many, many years of high
profits from that product line, and IBM stock
went up.

All this would be an argument for DELL's rosy
future except that the patent (and copyright)
protection for the new standard business machines
is not now, and will not ever be in DELL's possession.
Instead, this turf is now largely owned by software
companies, in particular MSFT, and to a much smaller
extent by INTC.

This is why historically the box makers have sold
at relatively low PEs, and DELL stock will return
to PEs in the teens again. No monopoly, no
pricing power, no decades long high profit stream.

-- Carl

P.S. I suppose I should give a prediction for when
DELL returns to a P/E below 20. I think this will
happen in the next 3 to 4 years.



To: Mr. Aloha who wrote (44583)5/23/1998 4:37:00 PM
From: Chuzzlewit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 176387
 
Aloha Mr. Aloha,

It still sounds to me like you're avoiding both challenges. Jim challenged the TA guys to a period of actual trading with a comparison of results -- he even is willing to put money on it.

I challenged you guys to come up with some credible statistical proof.

As of this post I believe we are both still eagerly waiting.

TTFN,
CTC