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To: Grainne who wrote (16226)	5/23/1998 7:22:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Christine I read your posts with DLL. The man is lips service and his religion is the evil one that Romans created by force to maintain slavery and unfair taxes. He has made no study and can't even read his bible without his preconceived notions. He asks for my beliefs. For a time I tried to answer every question. He would ignore that and ask the source for the info. I gave him web sites of researchers of religion, biblical origins, explained there was no new Gospel just a plagiarism of myths. He is unable to admit he is in error. He turns and posts vindictive accusations of my religion. Then tells me I am going to Hell and offers a prayer for me to blessed. He will not reason on anything.. If you follow this thread for any length of time you will find it useless to respond to certain people. They are trying to take control of this thread when they have two more theads of religion here. I haven't bothered him on them by sharing my views & experiences because I haven't haven't seen anyhthing but Messiah beliefs. The Romans burned the wisdom which was considered as necessary to education at Alexandria. If you will check back at some of my prior posts you should be able to judge real quick who is telling the truth by seeking and reason. These people want to argue scripture but I am pretty adept at using the bible alone. They seem to place the devil (existing in only their minds) on any wisdom you may get on a web site. You said it simply in the manner early civilization was taught. You know what is right or wrong from your God within. You do not need to be told what is evil. The duality of man was known all over the world until the dark ages. Since you know history, look how it followed the Roman empire thru Europe. In order to better slaves, be as promiscous as they like, kill anyone who disagrees and it is fine. Because this life means nothing. It's the hereafter God will reward the poor, servants obey your master, don't bury your talents just produce for a pie in the sky promise. By Jesus dying for them all was absolved. How a woman can read the old testament and still support a church is beyond me. Women were the abused as well as the slaves. God' elect were murderers, thieves, rapists, sodomizers and you name evil and that says it all. The big damage that has been done is create a bad self image and one of the things best understood is that we become what we think we are. When they brainwash little children in sunday school and threaten them with eternal fire they are not developed to know any better. That is evil in my opinion and any reasonable mind. They are such proselyters, if you don't buy it, they will stoop to posting lies about your beliefs. Their concepts are based on lies and it will require a new paradigm for them to be able to communicate. They keep hollering about me being a scholar and able to know a lot. Well I am 74 and had to drop out in my third year of school. I do not even have a high school diploma. Do I have a broad general education from reading? Yes because as a Gemini I am by nature a living question. I need to know why just as much or more than I did when a child who goes through that stage. For that reason I had to find out why in religion for it made no sense to me. It had much I just knew to be true. But inspired word and only instruction for living or a life after of hell fire and brimstone. A big joke. A cruel vindictive God who rewarded evil people and commanded evil suddenly is described in the new testament as a loving forgiving God. Following someone that evil and wishy washy is not my type of worship. If it is true then I'm ready to burn in hell. If you have time check the last two weeks I posted here and see how much they refuse to acknowledge is in their own bible. I also have some good URL's posted for research work on the www. That evil empire that is against God. I only post here to neutralize their venom. I know we do not require salvation from anything but ignorance. I have never seen faith without works demonstrate this. I have learned that many people visit this site out of curiossity but are hesitant to speak out fearing attack from what they see. My only request is when you toss out their fake Christianity and seek your own you will find the truth. No man will have to tell. Your knower inside, gut feeling, hunch or whatever you give it, will lead you only to right living if you follow it. Deny it and you are asking for trouble that is sure to follow. Don't let them run you off. Some of us here still have an open mind. It's just that you will spend all day & night trying to be nice and answering them because they just pester you constantly with their drivel. Since you are a woman I'm sure they will get into abortion and tell you how sinful it is and should be against the law. Well I maintain it is a bigger sin to produce a child of a diseased rapist, abusive husband , or anything that may harm the born child.

To: Grainne who wrote (16226)	5/23/1998 10:46:00 PM
From: DLL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Christine; <<Does this mean that you are saying the earth and everything on it were created in six days?>> Yes I do. You must remember that time is relative to mass, speed, and gravity. Some physicists say that it the mass of the universe is reduced to the size of the earth, all time has existed only six days. A very deep subject which would take years to fully understand. However, be careful not to place your own understanding onto complicated issues of physics. As for evolution the question of assumption plays a large role in your ability to accept any idea. Most scientists tend toward Naturalism, and therefore reject the possibility of God. Once rejected Naturalism is all you have left. Do you realize that Darwinian Evolution demands that there is no such thing as human free will. This part of Darwin's theory bothered him but he knew that Evolution left no room for free will. That we all react only to our environment which then controls our behavior. Do you believe in free will? If you do then you too deny Darwinism. DLL