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To: Grainne who wrote (16249)	5/23/1998 9:58:00 PM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

<<Anyway, here are some comments from various groups who are concerned about the Promise Keepers: >> Christine, I looked at your website to find out who it was that was criticizing the Promise Keepers, and wouldn't you know, it came from the gay community. Do you think gays have a problem with the bible, and Godly principles? -Chris

To: Grainne who wrote (16249)	5/23/1998 10:22:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 39621

Christine, I started to ask you if you got this garbage right out of a NOW handbook, but I clicked on your site there to see what it was.I told DLL I am surprised it actually took you 3 or 4 post to bring up the terrible plight of the homosexuals. Which is actually more terrible than you can imagine. Does not matter what lies are printed about them, I personally know too many women who are TOO TOO glad their men decided to stand FOR the family not tear it apart as you do. I printed their 7 promises, yet you or Ann could not find fault with them. >>Promise Keepers defines a "godly man" as one who obeys the church and is involved in a monogamous, heterosexual relationship. What about gays and lesbians? Single moms? Divorcees? Are they "godly"?<< I am sorry for gays and lesbians. They need to repent and turn from their lifestyle.(No need to lecture me on the story of science says blah blah) I know many Godly single moms. But you know what?? They may not have had to BE SINGLE MOMS if the men would stand up and keep their promises!!! Same for divorcees. Men cause most of the divorce problems and they need to stand up, take responsibility for it and be MEN . Not jerks. By the way Christine, you don't believe in God anyway so why do you give a rats hiney what the promise keepers believe. And trying to stir up races(notice i said races not lifestylists) by stating all men are not welcome is a....well you know....... Many men probably came home from a rally and forgot any part of it. But I know MANY WHO ARE NOW MAKING A DIFFERENCE NOT ONLY IN THE HOME, BUT IN THIER CHURCHES, AND COMMUNITIES.Make them perfect?? Sorry no, just more aware. So bottom line... You know not what you speaketh........

To: Grainne who wrote (16249)	5/23/1998 11:14:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Christine I am more worried right now of the power building the Christian right taking over the Government. Bill gates has enough money to buy America and that is a good thing when women are driven to the extremes to provide for the children some irresponsible man left her to raise? Then the kind who drove her to serve them food as a low paid servant are mistreated and abused while trying to serve. The high class men will try to feel her up if she gets close enough to touch while serving them. They are forced to put up with this as well as verbal abuse because they thought she should let others go and serve them. Is it moral to live in a society that taxes that poor women out of her tips used to feed that child and gives all kinds of tax benefits to corporation like Gate if he will build in their city and state. Is it fair that waitress pays taxes to provide fire and police protection for churches and corporations? The politics are in real danger now and people have been dangled that carrot to pacify the majority while the poor live on streets.