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To: Dirk Hente who wrote (838)	5/25/1998 4:02:00 PM
From: Street Walker	Respond to of 14778

Thanks for the explanation. Question on NAT. I'll contact Castle and see if the kill key works behind a firewall. There are actually 3 people/accounts in my trading room each using the same applications simultaneously. We are getting a new ISP that gives 10MBps download and I'm just trying to figure out the best way to share this connection. I didn't quite understand your explanation as to the advantage of NAT/(seagate) vs a proxyserver in my set up and computer use. Explanation of NAT: carol.wins.uva.nl S.W.

To: Dirk Hente who wrote (838)	5/25/1998 4:26:00 PM
From: Street Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14778

Sygate and Nevod - NAT sygate.com nevod.com Here's some stuff from a trial user of Sygate. I personally like the bit about "invisible to all software". ------------------------------------------------------------- From: +Mike Schoonmaker Sygate - not actually a proxy server, but a NAT (Network Address Translator). I found this product to be virtually invisible to all software, which is a VERY nice feature! EVEN worked with iChat ActiveX chat client without a hitch (neither of the others would-wingate/winproxy). Their demo version is kinda crippled, it does allow trial, but requests/receives the packets in sequential fashion until one purchases the product license key. What this means is, If you're trying out on (2) machines, the first machine making a request gets ALL of the bandwidth... the secondary machine must WAIT for no activity, before that request is processed. After a timeout period, the secondary machine gains "control", and the first machine must wait for a similar timeout period before getting anymore access. The people at SyGate say that this does NOT occur in the licensed version. Two downsides to Sygate for me... 1) can't restrict access to certain sites/addresses/ports (got to keep daughter off of the IRC channels), and 2) no NT version available for trial. If blocking access is not a problem for you, I thing SyGate offers the most invisible product. Nevod - have not tested _______________________________________________ nat vs proxy server explanation: nevod.com sygate.com ---------------- If I decided to go NAT rather than a Proxy Server, I just need to decide between Sygate and Nevod. S.W.

To: Dirk Hente who wrote (838)	5/25/1998 9:03:00 PM
From: Howard R. Hansen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14778

>>Is the speed of the internet connection cut in half cause you're using two ip's off one data feed? well, the speed of your conection is always the same, but, it is shared among 2 computers. So you cant get the max bandwidth for each computer. The question is whow much do you get. My experience is, it seems to be better to download things in paralell at the same time. I just made a test: I downloaded a matrox driver from matrox ftp site: using my wingate machine i got a transfer rate of 7.2K/sec. On my second computer (behind wingate) same speed. Now, using both computers a the same time (downloading 2 different files) i got 3.5K/Sec for the wingate computer and 3.8K/sec for my client machine.<< What you say here is true for a low speed internet connection. But what happens if you have high speed internet access? Then your download speed may be limited by the speed of your data vendors connection to the internet. But more likely I believe at times you will find your download speed will be limited by the speed of InterJetNet and at other times your download speed will be limited by the speed of your data vendors connection to the internet. I don't know if you realize it Street Walker but the speed of your internet access can be much less than 10 Megabits per second when a lot of customers are using InterJetNet's service at one time.