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To: Grainne who wrote (16504)	5/26/1998 3:11:00 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Thanks for the links, Christine. I'll be sure to check them out. Abuse in 50% of marriages--that's a staggering number. How can it be in America? My upbringing & the example my parents set for me prepared me to accept nothing less than a partnership in marriage, a 50/50 relationship in all ways. Have you been to Ireland? As is very obvious from my name, my husband & I are of Irish descent--Surprise:o) In 1993 we celebrated our 20th Anniversary with a trip to Ireland. Observed first hand the male/female relationships. My impression was that no more than right here in USA the celtic heritage has given the females lots of spunk. Most of them can handle any man--mentally and otherwise<ggg> The celtic women fought right along the men in battle. Now, that's 50/50. As far as religious fervor waning there. I noticed this was so even in l993. The newspapers, same as here in U.S., have substituted scandal in place of real news. I've just about given up believing what we read & hear in the press(tv & print). The dictum of publishers to journalists to "give just the facts" has atrophied to "make the scandal as juicy as possible"--so we sell more papers, or get more viewers. Journalists have become novelists, IMHO<gg> Observed the Promise Keepers leader being interviewed on TV a few months ago. His wife sat quietly by his side and never injected her opinion on anything. He rambled on. Kept waiting for him to ask her a question or in someway have her participate. That interview alone made me somewhat suspicious about the groups intentions. I'll hold final judgement though for now. Don't know anyone personally who belongs to the group. Best wishes, Ann

To: Grainne who wrote (16504)	5/26/1998 3:49:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

>> Unfortunately, women are still beaten or otherwise abused in 50% of American marriages. Movements like the Promise Keepers seem like they are religious, but actually have the agenda of keeping women subservient to men<< What a lie this is about promisekeepers. But right out of the NOW handbook huh C.? (Rom 1:16 NIV) I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. (Rom 1:17 NIV) For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith." (Rom 1:18 NIV) The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, (Rom 1:19 NIV) since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. (Rom 1:20 NIV) For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

To: Grainne who wrote (16504)	5/26/1998 3:51:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 39621

(Rom 1:21 NIV) For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. (Rom 1:22 NIV) Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools (Rom 1:23 NIV) and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. (Rom 1:24 NIV) Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. (Rom 1:25 NIV) They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. (Rom 1:26 NIV) Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. (Rom 1:27 NIV) In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

To: Grainne who wrote (16504)	5/26/1998 3:52:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

(Rom 1:28 NIV) Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. (Rom 1:29 NIV) They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, (Rom 1:30 NIV) slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; (Rom 1:31 NIV) they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. (Rom 1:32 NIV) Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.