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Strategies & Market Trends : Waiting for the big Kahuna -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Chip McVickar who wrote (19323)5/28/1998 12:10:00 PM
From: Defrocked  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 94695
 
With all the nuclear weapons being tested
and inventoried on this rock, astronomers
should be encouraged to find additional,
potentially inhabitable, planets a tad bit
closer than 450 light years. <ng>



To: Chip McVickar who wrote (19323)5/28/1998 2:01:00 PM
From: James F. Hopkins  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 94695
 
Chip; *OT* Thanks for the news about the Astronomers, I'm a far
cry from being one but the subject has fascinated me from the
time I started as a navigator, and became a SF fan.

I have known of the discovery for some time but I guess this
changes it from the alleged status to an official status.

In my mind for the last 30 years there has never been any doubt that many solar systems must exist in the universe, and if you could
look at the enormous amount of stars you would likely not doubt
it either. I also have no doubt there are other life forms in
the universe, and likely just as advanced or maybe more so than we
are but whether humans will last long enough to ever
contact any of them is very questionable. <G>

There was a place in Nevada I happened to camp at one time on a trip
I was making to the west coast..it happened that there was no moon
out that night , and this place had crystal clear sky's , and even
the upper atmosphere was without any type of haze, ( it never can happen at sea to get such a clear view of the heavens ) any way
what I saw awed me in a way I have not the words to describe,
to any one who has not seen the heavens with the naked eye and in
such panoramic splendor that to me was more inspiring than any
view one could have of say the grand canyon or other such wonder.

AS that night I saw stars in such number and magnitude that I simply
sent hours fascinated by the fact that here I was a celestial
navigator of some years and had no idea of the enormous amount
of stars that most people including my self never see. The effect
of looking at them all at once
( with out the confines that are
placed on the eye via the field vision of any type looking aid ).
This effect gives the mind a sort of big panoramic picture,
you can not capture any other way. Even stacking views from Hubbell
together to form a huge picture will not impact the mind the same
way as just the simple view unhindered and almost as clear as being
out in space.

I both envy and feel sorry for most astronauts,
I think I can understand the feeling they must have when they
view the heavens obstructed for the first time, and how once
having that, knowing you can never fully share it with some one
unless they could see it. Because it is so unbelievable that
it is outside the limits of any mans imagination until they
see it for themselves. Not just outside the limits of words
mind you but outside the limits of imagination. It must be seen to
comprehend it, and I doubt it could ever be understood by the
viewer even if he lived to be a 1000 yrs old, it's just to much
to comprehend in several life times. <G>

I might be over stating the feeling it gave Astronauts as I
have never asked one, and I realize that for several hours I focused my mind on nothing else, blocking out all concepts of time or were I was or were I was going or any responsibilities I simply merged with
the heavens that night..or them with me.

It was like I had stumbled onto a
new world , but one that was so huge it caused me to forget
there was even an earth , not only did it humble me, why it
caused me to later say "earth is not even so much as a speck of
dust in this universe " " heck our whole solar system might be
even be compared to that of a single atom that would be a part
of this earth..now try to count all the atoms that make up earth
and you might get an idea of what my mind saw that night.

There is a vast difference between describing eternity or even
trying to imagine it, than there is to seeing it. I feel like I
have seen Eternity and understand more than ever why it can not
end.
I looked across more "time" and all at one time that night
more than any one will ever be able to describe. All the books
that have ever been written or will be written on this earth could
not contain what I saw that night , to even try it would bury
all of us under huge mountains of books until there would be no
place left on earth to find even a small niche left to live.
And the oceans would be displaced with books as well, every resource
the earth has would be used up in making the books, and still
they could not describe what I saw.
You can bet we are not alone NO WAY !!!
Jim