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To: Mo Chips who wrote (56157)	5/28/1998 6:59:00 PM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Mo, way to be cool, baby! Did Humble Carl manage to convert you to the pious Church Of Intel? Mo said: "My initial feeling about the actions against MS vs Intel is that Microsoft IS predatory in it's actions while intel is not. I think the case against Intel will go nowhere. Microsoft, that is another story..." Tony

To: Mo Chips who wrote (56157)	5/28/1998 8:57:00 PM
From: Steve Porter	Respond to of 186894

All: Someone is missing something. The reason the software and hardware industries have done so well is that the standard set forth by Intel and Msft have allowed consumers to buy with confidence. If you take away that ability (i.e. if there isn't a dominant software company and a dominant hardware company) the indsutry fragments and we have a Beta/VHS issue again expect there would be 5-10 different options. The whole thing would collapse, there would be no interoperablility. Case in point: Let's look at word processors: The 2 biggest are: Ms Word and Corel Wordperfect. Guess what, they both read and write each others formats. Now before Wordperfect (and subsequently Word) was dominant, interoperability was limited to ASCII text exports that had to be reformatted every time you imported them into a new document system. The same with CPUs. Why does everyone think APple tried so hard to keep the PowerPC based Macs compatible with the 680x0 models. Because they knew people didn't want to buy a $hit load of new software. In short although I am admitedly not an Intel fan, I think that DRASTIC action (i.e. breakups, Multibillion $ fines, etc.) against MS or Intel would be a mistake (although a little slap on the wrist for both would do no harm IMHO). Intel has behaved a little better lately and MS has as well. Maybe the threat is enough. Thoughts, comments? Steve. PS anyone out there who wants to talk to me (seriously) and has MS netmeeting installed, send me a private message and I will give you the address of my ILS server.

To: Mo Chips who wrote (56157)	5/28/1998 9:36:00 PM
From: Logos	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

RE: <<My initial feeling about the actions against MS vs Intel is that Microsoft IS predatory in it's actions while intel is not. I think the case against Intel will go nowhere. Microsoft, that is another story...>> Actually, both Intel and Microsoft have done things that they ended up regretting in a legal way, at some point or another. The difference is that Intel is choosing to play nice with the government while Microsoft is playing rough. Intel, for example, recently lost a suit to another company (Integraph) that said Intel was trying to bully them into giving up some patent rights. In another case, I'm sure everyone here noticed Intel's purchase of Digital's Alpha production facilities. Well, part of the price was apparantly an Intel payoff to Digital after Digital found some proprietary Alpha ideas in Intel chips. Finally, Intel's decision to potentially license Slot 1 is almost certainly an attempt to show the FTC and DOJ how nice they can be to AMD and NSM. By the way, in one of those weird ironies, Digital twisted a lot of business out of Microsoft when they noticed a suspicious abundance of VMS ideas in NT. The fact that the guy who headed up the VMS project for Digital later was head of NT development at Microsoft helped Digital put 2+2 together. So it's pretty easy to see that both Intel and Microsoft are at least vulnerable to legal action, whether by the government or by other companies. Haz