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To: Zeev Hed who wrote (15827)	5/29/1998 2:35:00 PM
From: kormac	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 18056

-- hoist with (or by) one's own petard. Hamlet III iv Best, Seppo

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (15827)	5/29/1998 4:37:00 PM
From: Stitch	Respond to of 18056

Zeev, <<I wonder why Stitch did not point that the word "deridation" does not exist >> I thought of it but didn't want you to think I was too pedantic. A pedantic post on petard was enough. <G> Best, Stitch

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (15827)	5/29/1998 5:54:00 PM
From: Jack Clarke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 18056

>>OFF TOPIC Hi Zeev, Everyone's English should be as good as yours! Here's something on that expression which clarifies its use. I think we use the archaic form "hoist" instead of "hoisted" because of Shakespeare's use of it and our reference to his work. PETARD: Hoist on his own petard. Caught in his own trap, involved in the danger he meant for others. The petard was a conical instrument of war employed at one time for blowing open gates with gunpowder. The engineers used to carry the petard to the place they intended to blow up, and fire it at the small end by a fusee. Shakespeare spells the word petar. '''Tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petar.'' (Hamlet, ii. 4.) ''Turning the muzzles of the guns Magdalawards, and getting a piece of lighted rope [the party] blazed away as vigorously as possible ... and tried to hoist Theodore on his own petar.'' Daily paper. >>BACK ON TOPIC<< By the way, Zeev, do you still stick by your prediction of an UP move in the market? John Hussman, of Hussman Econometrics just gave his first trend change signal in the time I've been subscribing to his newsletter. He has said all along that the fundamentals were awful, but the trend was powerful enough to continue that direction. Of course I agree with him! Jack