To: Paul Senior who wrote (4204 ) 6/1/1998 12:45:00 AM From: Paul Senior Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 78525
Aside: Just want to acknowledge the passing of mutual fund pioneer and value investor, Philip Carret last week at age 101. Actually a remarkable fellow IMO. Of course over the years he was interviewed because of his longevity (which apparently runs in his family - his mother told stories of about hearing reports of Civil war battles.) The family had its ups and downs (chronicled briefly in one of Mr. Carret's books, "A Money Mind at Ninety".) I've got a March 1986 article about Wall Street's elder statesmen which says of the then 89 year-old Mr. Carret, that he "still logs full workweeks plus three hours on Saturdays to try to spot good stock buys." He was a buy and hold guy it seems to me. Many articles written about his Greif Brothers holdings -- I often wondered what would have happened if he bought MRK or LLY or BMY in 1947 (or whenever he started his Greif position). He, like many people on this thread, believed management was crucial. "He insists on knowing a company's management personally." He liked companies he could understand (not tech stocks!), was attracted to companies with unbroken (or almost unbroken) 10 year record of earnings increases, and preferred debt-free companies - leaders in their fields - with stable management. I think he was particularly proud of his small, original ($16k)investment in Neutrogena in 1979 which returned him profits of $137k in 1986, $90k in '87, and a further $265k when the co. was sold to JNJ. He originally found the company when he saw the soap (it's a soap co.) in the sink of the hotel room in which he was staying. (This info. comes from a Washington Post article on him on his 100th birthday.) I will be presumptuous and say that Mr. Carret's lesson for us (and me for sure) is: PATIENCE PAYS. I believe the profits Mr. Carret achieved came as a result of applying his approach over a long period of time. He bought quality and held. In one of his books, he discusses how it was difficult for him to accept that he was not as good an investor as some of his peers. But yet, from 1932 he was almost always his own boss, he was able to survive on Wall Street (he was a founder of one of the earliest mutual funds (1928) - successful enough that it paid dividends right through the depression); and I see that he raised two sons who followed him into the business. I never knew Mr. Carret, but I will miss reading of his ideas and stock picks. I think it's been great to see someone continue to do the work he loves --even when it's not necessary financially -- and share that learning and wisdom which comes with the experience of so many decades. I believe a lot of people on this thread are going to make a lot of money in the market over the coming years -- and I suspect maybe it will come a lot easier if we could take a long term view as Mr. Carret did. Paul Senior