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To: mark silvers who wrote (16745)	5/31/1998 1:55:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39621

hypertext.com Hey Mark. Maybe you'll find Fox's true face here. Remember--it's the little foxes that spoil the grapes. Wise up, my man, or God the Father of Jesus Christ may just tire of your foolish and abandon you to satan. It has happened, happens, and will continue to happen. But, how close you are, I don't know. When you're there, however, believe me you will know it. If you think this is fanatic, you should see what I really feel like writing here. :) Mainly this is now a satanic chat room where the messengers of the prince of darkness meet and exchange their anti-Christ speak. You don't seem quite there. If you are, you're so good you have me fooled. Hate it when that happens.

To: mark silvers who wrote (16745)	5/31/1998 2:49:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Sorry haven't read that one. e-mail me your e-mail address and will give you website for Much of his works. This was just an excerpt I quoted. I think by now you see I do not say any one religion is the only way. I promote no religion but truth as we each recognize it. I just want to put a stop to misrepresentation from the messiah people here. Any religion by control is truly destuctive.

To: mark silvers who wrote (16745)	5/31/1998 3:04:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

ECKHART'S VISION OF THE PROCESS OF SELF-REALIZATION "And therefore, when a man accommodates himself barely to God, with love, he is unformed, then informed, and then transformed in the divine uniformity wherein he is one with God. . . . You must give up yourself, altogether give up self, and then you have really given up." " 'In the beginning God created heaven and earth.' . . . These words suggest first the production or emanation of the Son and the Holy Spirit from the Father in eternity, then the production or general creation of the whole universe from the One God in time, and many of the properties of both Creator and creature." The Godhead is a "solitary One," a "darkness or nescience": it is divine "desert"--utterly featureless, a pure untrammeled One without movement or number. Emanating from this desert-like emptiness is the Trinitarian God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which are the dynamic, differentiated, creative phase of the Divinity. This "production" or "emanation" of the Three Persons out of the silent Godhead is condensed by Eckhart into the term bullitio, literally "boiling," which metaphorically expresses the boiling over into itself of the Trinitarian God out of the One. On the other hand, ebullitio describes the production or general creation of the whole universe from the One God. . . . The key characteristic of bullitio is that while the Trinitarian God involves the activity of emanation, distinction, and numerical diversity, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit never lose their absolute unity with the non-diverse One. There is "unity of substance and a distinction and property of persons in the Godhead." " . . . the statement 'I am who I am' [Exodus 3:14--more correctly translated "I will be what I will be."] indicates a certain reversion and turning back of his being and into and upon itself, and its abiding or remaining in itself; also a sort of boiling up (bullitio) or giving birth to itself: an inward glowing, melting and boiling in itself and into itself, light in light and into light wholly penetrating its whole self, totally and from every side turned and reflected upon itself. As the wise man says: 'Monad begets--or begot--monad, and reflected its love or ardor upon itself.' . . . This is why John says: 'In him was life' [John 1:4]. Life means a sort of thrusting out, whereby a thing, inwardly swelling up, wholly bursts forth in itself, every part of itself in every other part, before it pours forth and boils over (ebulliat) outwardly." This idea of the One giving birth to the many while itself remaining an unchanged Unity is stressed in the image of the Godhead or One "boiling into or upon itself." The Trinitarian God is not created outside of the Godhead, but remains fused within it: "The first outburst (uzbruch) and the first effusion God runs out into is His fusion into His Son, who flows back into the Father." "God and Godhead are as different as heaven and earth. . . . Everything that is in the Godhead is one, and of that there is nothing to be said. God works, the Godhead does no work: there is nothing for it to do, there is no activity in it. It never peeped at any work. God and Godhead are distinguished by working and not working."