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To: mark silvers who wrote (16777)5/31/1998 11:17:00 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Hi Mark,

how are you?

>>Searching through the expression of love, instead of through more traditional and organized forms of religion.<<

I don't quite understand that statement for two reasons . One is that the Christians I know, show their "expression of love" THRU traditional and organized forms of religion,that is where they learned of true love.And number two, (correct me if I am wrong), did you not tell me once that you do not read the Bible? If you are searching FOR love that is the very best place to start.

And to answer your other question, I do not believe one insults God. God has told us that no one approaches Him except thru the blood of his Son. He has given us free will to choose. I choose to believe.

God Bless,

dan




To: mark silvers who wrote (16777)6/1/1998 11:29:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
In that day, Mark, this is my only warning. When you will make these same desperate excuses to the Ones who so clearly have given you over a million reasons to believe them--ie, The Creator and His Son, who you earnestly strive to assure us all, including THEM, that you do so kind of believe in them, just not anything They ever said to humans, but you most certainly hang on the words of every sinful human that ever lived and ever single human manifestation which has puffed itself up to make money and have fame attempting to block the direct path to God and instead set up a human organization to join as a substitute--well, when you scream in anguish that you didn't know, do you think it will fly?

IF there is a Father and Son, as the Bible says?

IF millions now have chosen willingly and with songs of praise on their lips during the process, horrifying death over denying that they have experienced this reality, and would rather so die than chance not spending eternity with Them forever?

IF speaking against them brings you down, leaves you empty, but the slightest drawing toward the Heavenly Father of the Bible, the Father of Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ Himself as presented ONLY IN THE BIBLE, if such moments seem to bring an instant lightness and happiness?

IF you know the REAL reason you refuse to listen is that you would have to abandon doing a couple or many things you wouldn't want to discuss openly here, and therefore prefer to keep your sins even though it might mean that angels do in fact finally pick you up and kind of heave you over the side into the trashbin of hell, per scripture, just like God warns?

Then stay the course. Stay steady, and don't back down a moment. Stay here and cast your lot against Jesus Christ with the satanists, absolute Wiccan prosltyzers and blood drinking vampires (hey, absolutely for certain that is a cottage industry of satanic study), and just take your chances when your body stops operating here.

Oh, yes, lurking angry drunks, cocaine heads having a bad stock day, and just maybe angry recycled 60's commies who can't give it up.

But I have never said anything more serious than this: Do not suppose that They will buy the idea you "just didn't know...."

O.K.? It's all a matter of faith. Mine that your judgment waits. Yours that I'm full of it and a little off.

Don't count on that, Mark. Au contraire, probably. And you, as you already know, are the only person I've seen here for any time other than Lennie who can't stand the knee high ca-ca anymore, I guess, who seemed to still be looking. You, however, have been here for months and you most certainly do live in the enemy's camp here.

The only thing I can tell you is that God made this world very much like the non-worldly Heaven, only no where as pretty. Since the earth was originally so gorgeous it cannot be described, and I've seen enough of that tiny remnant of beauty to imagine the other. He gave very few rules, except don't turn into sexually depraved monsters, murderers, cheats, liars and psychopaths. So He commanded us not to eat of a certain fruit just to test who really wanted more than was already given them. Apparently from the very first moments in human time, Eve did. And tracing the mother goddess nightmare, I get right back to the words for Eve. Per all secular studies I have ever looked at pertaining to mythology and tracing back the root words.

So, Heaven is for those who don't want those things. Hell is for those who decided they do. And also for those who decided for one reason or another they just didn't want Jesus Christ in their lives under any circumstances. Remember this: The Father LOVES the Son, very, very much. For the past 2,000 years Heaven appears to be a place for the SON to fellowship with those who love HIM, since those who love HIM, also immediately begin to WORSHIP AND LIVE FOR AND WITH THE FATHER.

Do you? If you do, fine. I will not be the one to judge you, for sure.
And if I were the judge, you'd regretfully probably have to go over the edge because you chose to, and I would have read your thoughts on this matter for years (this appears to be going on for years and years), and seen that you had not cared to obey the entrance requirements laid out by the Owner. And rather argued against Him whenever possible for the cause of the ideas of man.

Now, does that make any sense? We're just talking the pure logic of the Life and Death of Jesus Christ and the Word of God put down for all time at a horrendous cost of human lives that provided it.

Your life, your mind, your sinful side, your choice. And that, dear Mark, is about the way it is and it can't be made any more complex because it isn't. It was a plan designed for both Einstein and a complete retard who could barely grasp the concept. That's all I can tell you. And I do know from studying history that as many of the greatest religious figures we have heard about all of our lives also had the opportunity to have most everything the devil and his kingdom of this world offered him/her, and turned it down a lot of time to live in rather embarrassing proverty and wander around doing nice things because it made them very happy and seemed to be very pleasing to God who justly rewarded them in ways you can never comprehend.

Print this out and keep. Someday you may want to re-read, especially if you think you might be checking out for one reason or another.

:)