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To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (19838)6/1/1998 9:09:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
There is also the matter of there breaking a contract that was not adjudicated to be illegal or not binding. I certianly wish I could pull that stunt.

Ah, another definitive opinion from the legal branch of the Mind of Reg(TM). Who still can't be bothered to read what he has typoed. This being the same legal branch that held the DoJ, the top cops in the land, had investigated Microsoft and found them "not a monopoly". In a precedent setting opinion, of course. Somehow, it looks like the same stunt is being pulled again, though I'm sure the elusive context issue is available as a defense.

Cheers, Dan.



To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (19838)6/1/1998 4:56:00 PM
From: nommedeguerre  Respond to of 24154
 
Reggie,

>>but the DOJ's actions go considerably farther than that. Forced bundling of a competitor's product, force dismantling of MSFT's product to the point where it would not boot

NEC apparently did get Win95 to boot without Internet Explorer even though Microsoft said it was "impossible" for their own people.

Apparently those shifty foreigners are in on your conspiracy now.

>>In the medium term this should serve to benefit MSFT, for they can point to the fact that other vendors can ship NAV without impunity (at least from MSFT), if the subject ever comes up in court.

Or maybe the DOJ is doing its job by scrutinizing Microsoft's business practices closely thus allowing OEM's to make their own choices once again without fear of economic reprisals from Microsoft's tying agreements. Old Joachim must be foaming at the end of his leash at this point.

Cheers,

Norm



To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (19838)6/2/1998 10:41:00 PM
From: Keith Hankin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
This is happening because of the DOJ intervention and shows clearly that the Justice strategy of
focusing light on the OEM contracts is appropriate.>

No, I don't so. I do think it is good that the OEM's can ship thier browser of choice, but the
DOJ's actions go considerably farther than that. Forced bundling of a competitor's product,
forced dismantling of MSFT's product to the point where it would not boot, the government
micromanaging of the software design.... These things are ridiculous


Once again, you change the subject. Dermot's point is still just as relevant whether you think the DOJ's actions go too far or not. Don't you think that the timing of Gateway 2000, NEC, and IBM's moves to load Netscape's browser has at least something to do with DOJ pressure? And isn't this going to result in better choices for consumers?



To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (19838)6/4/1998 1:53:00 AM
From: Andy Thomas  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
Hi Reg,

We should rewrite the intellectual property laws so that people who copy such materials and re-sell them ("pirates") simply pay the originator 10% of gross. Everyone could go into business then.

What the computer industry needs is more chaos, less order.

Chaos brings liberty and order tyranny.

FWIW
Andy