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To: Paul Fiondella who wrote (22404)	6/1/1998 12:18:00 PM
From: Spartex	Respond to of 42771

Paul: Thanks for those thoughts, as it rang a few bells in my head too. I hope NOVL is going to be part of this future (re:intelligent monitoring of home appliances and systems). Would even be nice to do it via wireless beepers, and cellulars so that one gets an early warning of mishaps (water flooding the basement, instant feedback on downed home power lines so that Fifi-dog at home doesn't freeze to an ice-cube in the house while you are away during sub-zero temps, pipes burst after freezing and make a nice mess of your home etc.). The possibilities are rich, and I agree, Novell can have a part of this business with their NOS too. Regards, QuadK

To: Paul Fiondella who wrote (22404)	6/1/1998 12:37:00 PM
From: Elmo Gregory	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42771

Whatever became of NEST? Novell Embedded Systems Technology (NEST) NEST is an instrumental part of Novell's mission to make computer networks available to a billion users by the year 2000. NEST, because it includes the client component of NetWare, brings NetWare's security, directory services, routing and management capabilities to all intelligent devices. NEST is a small, modular and operating system independent architecture that allows everything from home electronics to automobiles to communicate over computer networks. NEST will enable users to take advantage of advanced Novell technologies like NetWare Directory Services (NDS) -- whether they are connecting from a home PC, a personal digital assistant (PDA), their car or their television set. novell.com

To: Paul Fiondella who wrote (22404)	6/1/1998 11:31:00 PM
From: Scott C. Lemon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42771

Hello Paul, > Nortel, Northern Telecom, and Norweb --- Where is Novell? Please! Include links! You are talking about an area that I am very interested in ... I have been experimenting with home automation since the 1970's - from hardwired enhancements to X-10 ... > My stove is my computer. It can have JAVA conversations over the > power line with the web server. Is this modern prose? ;-) I know that my microwave has a computer, but not being much of a cook I'm not sure the specific value to the end user of the stove talking to a web server. But the general concept of appliances being able to report problems, or notify the owner of a burner being left on makes complete sense. > Sound too far fetched. Not for friends of mine in the power control > engineering field who have been using networks and dial-up networks > for decades to manage energy consumption at industrial plants > remotely. I know! I have several friends that work for Honeywell and a couple others at a private company that install power/environment management systems at large corporate campuses. They have sensors for controlling lights, and temperature ... which are also used for security! It's amazing to see the one facility in Atlanta that remotely manages the systems at hundreds of Atlanta buildings. They even dispatch techs to replace hardware which is failing before the building owners even recognize the effects ... I have been talking with some folks here in Deer Valley (Utah's Hollywood hang-out and Aspen-like neighborhood) who want this for their homes ... > Now we have a serious effort on the part of the Nortel in this > area. They are looking to put a box on the power line capable of > communicating with intelligent appliances in the home and remote > servers and the Internet. Please forward any links that you have or come across. I'd be very interested in trying to stay aware of the realistic progress that is occurring in this area ... Is the box using the power-lines for external communications? Or just to bridge between the outside world and the world in the home? > Is Novell in the picture? In my house it is! ;-) I'm running BorderManager at home for Internet connectivity and acceleration. It also is a home web server ... > I would love to go to an Internet site. Type in my password. Maybe on my home web server like I do ... > Access my second home. Ok ... maybe my first home ... ;-) > Turn up the heat. I do this today ... X-10 ... > Check the video security camera. Yep ... got that also via CU-SeeMe from my Win95 workstation. I'm working to find an affordable way to do multiple cameras now! ;-) > Check the weather. I started this one, but didn't finish. Davis Instruments has the weather station ... I just never completed integrating the data into my web pages. Too much time working at Novell! ;-) > Recieve Email from my failing appliances (such as my telephone > answering machine knocked out by the power outage, that now needs > to be reset. Etc. Etc. Hmmm ... my answering machine is my computer, and it's on a UPS ... but it is running on Win95 and does need to be rebooted a lot ... > The key is "intelligent appliances" to cut the cost of adding > little boxes to light switches etc. That means some standard. And > then there needs to be a network. Yes ... there are actually a couple of different standards which have evolved in this space. What's interesting is that the reliability and throughput of power-line stuff hasn't been the best. My X-10 stuff works, but I have to replace a module or two per year due to surges. (As a side note, I also have my lights throughout the house, ceiling fans, lawn sprinkler system, all of the outdoor floods, and my de-icing cables on my roof integrated.) The newer standards are starting to use real networking, but much of it isn't over traditional "two prong" power cords ... so special networks are being developed. It's getting there ... > Is Novell in the picture? A little bit ... and I'm continuing to experiment. I've truly been trying to find the real market and revenue model for this type of technology to enter the home. x10.com seems to have a lot of good ideas ... > Incidentally Nortel wants to make the power lines coming into your > house, the instant Internet access ramp to high speed data > communications. Do you have any links or information about shipping products in this area? I haven't been able to locate any real high-speed solutions that are reality ... power-line has been talked about, but I haven't seen the real implementations ... > Are Novell servers in the picture? At my house ... ;-) Scott C. Lemon