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To: Street Walker who wrote (972)	6/1/1998 5:26:00 PM
From: Spots	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14778

I'm a big computer fan, myself. Some people hate 'em, though. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

To: Street Walker who wrote (972)	6/1/1998 7:37:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul	Respond to of 14778

Fans by DRWHOM From tom's hardware guide forum tomshardware.com A week or so ago I read a series of postings about possible cooling fan solutions. The originalmessage asked what was a good fan and where it could be obtained. I followed the threads withgreat interest since I have quite a large overheating problem and had tried many things alreadymyself. I would like now to put forth my observations on this matter. I have 5 hard drives, and aQuantum Obsidian dual 3dfx card running with a PII 266 overclocked to 300. I knew thecomputer was running hot but after I discovered the excellent hardware monitoring softwareavailable for free at: bcmcom.com, I found to my dismay that theinside board temperature monitor was recording a temperature of almost 30 degrees above ambient room air temperature. I live in Florida and sometimes our house gets up to 87 degrees inside during the day when we're not there. This was translating into a computer temperature inside the case at the on board monitor chip of as high as 117 degrees. This was abviously unacceptable. I then undertook a quest to find a satisfactory cooling solution for the computer case since I wasunprepared to take on the $100 plus monthly additional electric bills necessary to keep the houseat 70 degrees. I tried a series of inexpensive small DC computer fans available mail order. These had virtually no effect. I then got the notion to canibalize my old powersupply for the fan that came in it. This I did and after soldering on an unused connector, cut a neat hole in the removable sidepanel on my mid tower case and mounted the fan so as to blow into the case. The results were immediate and significant. My computer went from running approx 30 degrees above ambient room air temperature, to about 17 degrees above. Also after running the machine for 24 hours straight and physically checking the temperature of my hard drives and processer heatsink, I found that in the past where they would have been noticably hot.... to the touch, they were now only noticably warm. It was then that I stumbled upon the discussion thread in this forum. In the discussion it was mentioned that one of the readers had obtained a 4" a/c operated fan from Radio Shack and mounted it on the side of his case with good success. Two aspects of this approached appealed to me. One was that the fan did not draw off the computer's power supply, and two that it was a 4" fan rated at 65 cfm. Encouraged by this I went to my local Radio Shack store and for about 20 dollars with tax obtained one. After some judicious soldering and case hole enlarging I mounted the 4"er. The results were immediate and satisfying. The temperature inside my computer at the board sensor dropped to 13 degrees above ambient room air temperature. Even better, a physical check of the drives and processor revealed that they were running only slightly warm now. Later while reading a different message thread I came upon a reference by a professional video editor who had about 6 10000 rpm drives in his tower and two 4" a/c fans mounted on the side of his case to cool them. My experimentors curiousity peeked by this reference I went ahead and obtainted a 2nd 4" fan and mounted it beside the other one blowing air into the case. The result was incredible. The inside temp at the sensor dropped to only 4.5 degrees above ambient room air temperature. In addition a physical check of the drives and processor revealed that they were running almost cool to the touch. Many thanks to those contributing to threads of this earlier cooling discussion. I'd thank them directly but I seem to have lost the thread to this discussion and can not find it again. If anyone knows this please post a reply. As far as these Radio Shack fans are concerned I can heartily recommend them to anyone with an overheating computer. thankyoufor your indulgence, the dr

To: Street Walker who wrote (972)	6/2/1998 8:07:00 AM
From: LTBH	Respond to of 14778

Fans and RAM Processor see post 452 Vid Accelerator see post 452 Hi RPM HDs like Barracuda - no recommendation Case - check their website (think remember it comes w 2 case fans keep them) The Supermicro case comes with mounts for internal fans, if you detect a hot spot, add and direct an internal fan to this area. Also recently posted a couple of links to fan test results, you'll have to do a little looking or see if ZP put on aux site. 128 stick used to command very big price delta, its coming down now. If you're going to max out mem, then your choice has to be 128, if you have a choice then consideration could be the comfort of using 64s and being able to run on one or two while waiting for replacement for a failed stick. My experience indicates very low RAM failure rate with either a DOA or first week failure. Always recommend during a min 2 day burn in on any new system to shake out bad/weak components and get them replaced while still able to do so on vendors dime. If buying Asus, strongly recommend a burnin and stress test as Asus mobos seem to be either great or very poor....wide range of quality from one to the next. They could have corrected since I stopped buying about 6 months ago. However bet its still a problem. Networm