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To: ratan lal who wrote (44391)6/2/1998 5:56:00 AM
From: Stoctrash  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 58727
 
<<And to add insult to injury, the last time she visited India and Pakistan, both countries reminded her of the british atrocities and asked for the return of the jewels that the british stole, specially the the Kohinoor diamond. Maybe ok for a normal person but the queen is not used to being treated in such a manner.>>

Reminds me of the story about one of the oldest American Flags that finally come home. The British stole it form Ft. Niagara in a 1779(?) battle and after burning the fort down,.. escaped via Canada.

It was just returned to the Fort a year ago from British soil after years and years of haggeling. It was just a torn up rag, basically of no trading value like a diamond,,, that needs like a $150K restoration.

more of fred's history lesson:
oldfortniagara.org
niagara.com
geocities.com



To: ratan lal who wrote (44391)6/2/1998 7:39:00 AM
From: Patrick Slevin  Respond to of 58727
 
I have no particular animosity towards the British people....my thoughts are if someone gives me respect I owe them respect. At least I try to keep that level of integrity.

I noted on early trips to London the ethnic mix which impressed me at first as a positive. This mix is non-existent in Scotland/Ireland and upon reflection it is logical to see in such an international city such as London.

In London I am treated like an international traveler....perhaps because I am spending money, I don't know. In any event I find the people there to be no different than people in Chicago, NYC, San Francisco or anywhere else I have been.

The vision of various ethnic groups that you and I see may be transplanted across both of the coasts of the U.S., I would think. I don't think people are as selective with regard to emigration as we in our microcosm of the globe would normally think.

In NYC, on the other hand, my experience is mixed with respect to the British. It truly does seem to be a caste society when these people can be isolated. For example, in the Irish pubs in NYC there is occasionally a gentleman or two who are in the city on business from England and is just tipsy enough to try to downgrade everything American....too many blacks, too many Irish, too many freedoms, etc etc. Worse, they wish to jump into our conversations to make sure we know their thoughts.

If this country was so bad then these people are not real bright, as the Irish and Irish-Americans in NYC could quickly rip a Brits lungs out for such talk after a few drinks. Fortunately, I have yet to see one of these occasions turn ugly. I suppose the Irish are more tolerant than even I give them credit for.

As for the royalty in England I have no regard for it one way or the other. It's Britain's prime source of tourism money and perhaps the largest source of incoming capital for the country as a result. To me it's a lucrative business and the Queen is the CEO. I'm certain she is good enough at her job to be able to deal with political adversity; after all, she's been there through good quarters and bad and stockholder meetings aren't always rosy.