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To: Grainne who wrote (16859)6/2/1998 8:00:00 PM
From: Raymond James Norris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Perhaps you could write a post explaining the basic tenets of the faith?

Christine -

I would be more than honored to do so.

Islam is a major world religion today with 1.3-1.5 billion followers that worship one God. Many western sources claim the religion to be founded by Mohammad, however all Muslims believe the religion was created by God and that only the message was given to Mohammad to disseminate to the rest of the world.

Muslims believe that God Almighty sent each nation throughout history its prophet. So every nation was warned and told about the Mighty Creator. As a last revelation, Muslims believe that God sent his last message (which was the same as prior messages but now only complete) to Mohammad. They believe the major difference is that Mohammad was sent for all humankind and not just one nation as all previous prophets had been.

The Muslims have a Holy Book known as "The Qur'an." This book contains 114 chapters. Muslims believe that the speaker of the Qur'an in the first person is God. So in other words, we don't have writers writing about God but God actually speaking to humans.

Muslims carry many similar attributes to Christians and Jews. It's surprising since the news on TV seems to never mention how much the religions have in common. Since Muslims believe that God gave Moses the same message as Jesus as well as all prophets in the past, it's only expected that the final revelation would be very similar.
Here are some things Muslims believe that you might not have expected:

- Muslims believe that Jesus is from God's Spirit.
- That Jesus will return (the second coming) before Judgement Day
- in all miracles performed by God's previous prophets
- in Adam, Abraham, Noah, etc.

The Five Pillars of Islam are:

1. First and Foremost, Believe in One and Only one God (Sound similar to Hear O Israel, Our Lord is One?)

2. To Pray 5 times a day (the prayer consists of small chapters read from the Qur'an as well as prostrating on the floor......just as Jesus used to prostrate while praying to God).

3. To Fast one month of the year (the month is known as "Ramadan")

4. To perform Zakat: You probably don't know what "Zakat" means. Many translate it as giving money or food to needy people. While this certainly is one aspect of it, Zakat encompasses much more such as greeting a brother/sister with "Peace be Unto You," being courteous of all people, etc. It is mandatory that Muslims give 2.5% of their wealth to the needy.

5. If a person is Mentally, Physically, and financially able, it is required that a Pilgrimage is performed. Some people misunderstand what the Pilgrimage is all about. To Muslims, every second of the Pilgrimage is devoted to glorifying and praising God. People pray, read, etc. while at Pilgrimage. It's performed with millions of others that share a common thread in belief. And even though you don't know everyone, they're all your brothers and sisters.

So why do they wear those white sheets during Pilgrimage? Well, it's not because they're hot <g>. Islam requires those garments because in the sight of God, we are all equal and the only thing that differs between people is their faith: their devotion to God. So everyone wears the same clothing and no one can tell who is rich or who is poor, who is famous or who is not, who is from Africa and who is from Europe. It's meant to hide things that are irrelevant in the eyes of God.

Well I could go on and on but don't want to take too much of your time.........a few more things: Muslims cannot drink alcohol, eat swine, or eat blood among other things. But Jesus drank wine, right? Well Muslims believe that the wine of Jesus's time is not the same as the wine of today. They believe that wine in that era was more or less grape juice. Over time, alcohol was an added component.

Please ask anything else you might have. I did not touch upon why Muslims believe anything that the Qur'an says since this in itself is a deep subject. Thank you for giving me the opportunity....

Ray



To: Grainne who wrote (16859)6/2/1998 10:19:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson  Respond to of 39621
 
Gee Christine I have so many little tid bits:

researches into oriental history reveal the remarkable fact that stories
of incarnate Gods answering to and resembling the miraculous character
of Jesus Christ have been prevalent in most if not all the principal religions
heathen nations of antiquity; and the accounts and narrations of some of
these deific incarnations bear such a striking resemblance to that of the
Christian Savior -- not only in their general features, but in some cases in
the most minute details, from the legend of the immaculate conception to
that of the crucifixion, and subsequent ascension into heaven -- that one
might almost be mistaken for the other.

More than twenty claims of this kind -- claims of beings invested with
divine honor (deified) -- have come forward and presented themselves at
the bar of the world with their credentials, to contest the verdict of
Christendom, in having proclaimed Jesus Christ, "the only son, and sent
of God:" twenty Messiahs, Saviors, and Sons of God, according to
history or tradition, have, in past times, descended from heaven, and
taken upon themselves the form of men, clothing themselves with human
flesh, and furnishing incontestable evidence of a divine origin, by various
miracles, marvelous works, and superlative virtues; and finally these
twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character for the name) laid the
foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven.

1.Chrishna of Hindostan.
2.Budha Sakia of India.
3.Salivahana of Bermuda.
4.Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and Orus, of Egypt.
5.Odin of the Scaudinavians.
6.Crite of Chaldea.
7.Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia.
8.Baal and Taut, "the only Begotten of God," of Phenicia.
9.Indra of Thibet.
10.Bali of Afghanistan.
11.Jao of Nepaul.
12.Wittoba of the Bilingonese.
13.Thammuz of Syria.
14.Atys of Phrygia.
15.Xaniolxis of Thrace.
16.Zoar of the Bonzes.
17.Adad of Assyria.
18.Deva Tat, and Sammonocadam of Siam.
19.Alcides of Thebes.
20.Mikado of the Sintoos.
21.Beddru of Japan.
22.Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillah, of the Druids.
23.Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls.
24.Cadmus of Greece.
25.Hil and Feta of the Mandaites.
26.Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico.
27.Universal Monarch of the Sibyls.
28.Ischy of the Island of Formosa.
29.Divine Teacher of Plato.
30.Holy One of Xaca.
31.Fohi and Tien of China.
32.Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece.
33.IxiOn and Quirinus of Rome.
34.Prometheus of Caucasus.
35.Mohamud, or Mahomet, of Arabia.

These have all received divine honors, have nearly all been worshiped as
Gods, or sons of God; were mostly incarnated as Christs, Saviors,
Messiahs, or Mediators; not a few of them were reputedly born of
virgins; some of them filling a character almost identical with that ascribed
by the Christian's bible to Jesus Christ; many of them, like him, are
reported to have been crucified; and all of them, taken together, furnish a
prototype and parallel for nearly every important incident and
wonder-inciting miracle, doctrine and precept recorded in the New
Testament, of the Christian's Savior. Surely, with so many Saviors the
world cannot, or should not, be lost.

We have now presented before us a two-fold ground for doubting and
disputing the claims put forth by the Christian world in behalf of "Our
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." In the first place, allowing the question to
be answered in the affirmative as to whether he was really a Savior, or
supernatural being, or more than a mere man, a negative answer to which
seems to have been sprung (as previously intimated) at the very hour of
his birth, and that by his kindred, his own nearest relatives; as it is
declared, "his own brethren did not believe on him" -- a skepticism which
has been growing deeper and broader from that day to this.

And now, upon the heel of this question, we find another formidable
query to be met and answered, viz.: Was he (Christ) the only Savior,
seeing that a multitude of similar claims are now upon our council-board
to be disposed of?

We shall, however, leave the theologians of the various religious schools
to adjust and settle this difficulty among themselves. We shall leave them
to settle the question as best they can as to whether Jesus Christ was the
only son and sent of God -- "the only begotten of the Father," as John
declares him to be (John i. 14) -- in view of the fact that long prior to his
time various personages, in different nations, were invested with the title
"Son of God," and have left behind them similar proofs and credentials of
the justness of their claims to such a title, if being essentially alike -- as we
shall prove and demonstrate them to be -- can make their claims similar.

We shall present an array of facts and historical proofs, drawn from
numerous histories and the Holy Scriptures and bibles appertaining to
these various Saviors, and which include a history of their lives and
doctrines, that will go to show that in nearly all their leading features, and
mostly even in their details, they are strikingly similar.

A comparison, or parallel view, extended through their sacred histories,
so as to include an exhibition presented in parallels of the teachings of
their respective bibles, would make it clearly manifest that, with respect to
nearly every important thought, deed, word, action, doctrine, principle,
receipt, tenet, ritual, ordinance or ceremony, and even the various
important characters or personages, who figure in their religious dramas
as Saviors, prophets, apostles, angels, devils, demons, exalted or fallen
genii -- in a word, nearly every miraculous or marvelous story, moral
precept, or tenet of religious faith, noticed in either the Old or New
Testament Scriptures of Christendom -- from the Jewish cosmogony, or
story of creation in Genesis, to the last legendary tale in St. John's
"Arabian Nights" (alias the Apocalypse) -- there is to be found an
antitype for, or outline of, somewhere in the sacred records or bibles of
the oriental heathen nations, making equal if not higher pretention to a
divine emanation and divine inspiration, and admitted by all historians,
even the most orthodox, to be of much more ancient date; for while
Christians only claim, for the earthly advent of their Savior and the birth of
their religion, a period less than nineteen hundred years in the past, on the
contrary, most of the deific or divine incarnations of the heathen and their
respective religions are, by the concurrent and united verdict of all history,
assigned a date several hundred or several thousand years earlier, thus
leaving the inference patent that so far as there has been any borrowing or
transfer of materials from one system to another, Christianity has been the
borrower.

And as nearly the whole outline and constituent parts of the Christian
system are found scattered through these older systems, the query is at
once sprung as to whether Christianity did not derive its materials from
these sources -- that is from heathenism, instead of from high heaven --
as it claims.