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To: Dragonfly who wrote (1140)	6/2/1998 5:01:00 PM
From: Robert Winchell	Respond to of 1600

Ok, this tells us that you don't use these things very much. Assorted problems along these lines are well known in the programmer community here in Redmond. I've talked about them on occasion with people at Microsoft and at Microsoft service providers. I use NT and IE several hours a day at work and Win98 and IE a couple hourse at home every night/morning. Like I said, I have never had NT go bluescreen(or lockup) while using IE. I have had beta versions of IE4 crash Windows95, but had no problems otherwise. I was always able to kill the process if I needed to and restart it. Are there documented ways to crash IE on Microsoft's site? I'd actually like to try them with Windows98 and NT5 beta if so.

To: Dragonfly who wrote (1140)	6/2/1998 5:08:00 PM
From: rudedog	Respond to of 1600

The most common failure I have seen with both IE and Outlook is lack of adequate error handling at the network interface level. This results in orphaned I/O requests, or I/O that completes and can not release resource. This results in either very slow or no performance from other processes looking to use those resources. Depending on how things have stacked up this can also block access to disk resources. I have not seen a blue screen from this but I have seen the system get so sick it might as well be dead. Under Win98 this is usually the end of the line because it does not protect itself well enough to allow a graceful exit, and it does not have enough internal tools to allow you to release the locked resources. NT is a little better if you know enough about where to look, and if you have access to enough internal information. I think that the average user would be pretty well hosed under any of these conditions.