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To: O'Hara who wrote (16944)	6/3/1998 10:34:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

The sapient Sages who laid down the canons of wisdom for the ancient Egyptians called the Christ-mind, which they prefigured as the seed power of our divine nature implanted in the very flesh of humanity, to germinate, grow, blossom and flower to glorious beauty in the course of evolution, the "Lord of the Balance", a configurated representation of one of the twelve radiations of his power. For his advent and eventually full release of power is to bring "peace" to the chaotic turbulence of the lower sensual, emotional and irrational elements that cause the Biblical "tempest" on the sea of human life and which can be subdued to beneficent function by the superior intellectual principle. This is St. Paul's war of the "law which is in my members" against the law of the mind, and only with the coming in every life of the kingly rulership of the diviner reason over the seven "elementary powers" that generate the "seven deadly sins" will "peace" spread its benign mantle over the confused and disorderly human scene. The tragedy of the debacle which ensued in that fateful third century and laid its palsy upon the mind and soul of Western man ever since, lies in the fact that the splendor of truth and the beauty and glory of illuminated consciousness that inhered potentially in the creeds, doctrines, rituals and the Scriptures of the ancient world only to be perpetuated in frightful distortion in the Christian upsurge, have been lost or turned into inane senselessness for the millions in the ensuing centuries. The extent of this loss and tragedy is beyond all calculation. The birth of that genius of grace and charity that will well up and set the human heart athrob to the impulses of love and beauty, and which, as old Egypt averred, comes continuously, periodically ever more and more, might have by now been far advanced if stolid ignorance had not held in thrall the surgent forces of the spirit, and turned the brilliant semantic ideographs of divine truth into the absurdities of alleged "history". The transformation, the transfiguration of man can take place only through the marriage of soul and sense within the inner core of the human consciousness. As the Christian creed--an ancient formulary taken over from old Pagan runes and rituals--so well says, speaking of the descent of the son-units of God-soul into the life of the human body, the Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit in heaven, and born of the Virgin Mary, mother-matter, body, on earth. "Begotten, not created" the creed says; i.e. begotten in heaven "before all worlds", but created on earth, as indeed all things are. They are conceived in mind, then created in matter. Where and where only must it be seen that this father-conception and mother-birthing of the Christ can be consummated? The answer sets irrevocably the seal of truth on every word of this essay: it can be consummated only within the heart, mind and body of every human being on earth individually and consciously. The idea that it could be accomplished by one-only Son of God, a man not of our human order, vicariously for us all--and we needing only to "believe" this theorization to win its full efficacy for ourselves--must be written down as close to the crowning fatuity of all religious maundering. No god was ever sent to earth to transfigure man by saving him the evolutionary work of transfiguring himself. And no man will be rightfully, happily, efficiently oriented to this task unless and until he knows that within his own mind and in his very body of flesh resides that Christ-child who is in fact his own sonship from his Father. Through that realization, and through it only, can and will his entire dynamic of psychic energy be focused, like the sun's rays through a lens, upon the seed-power of Christly consciousness and cause it to burst into flame. How sagely the ancient Egyptians spoke of the soul of Christhood coming to earth "to kindle a fire in the underworld". The ancient Sages and Seers depicted the Christ-nature as a living flame dampened and often almost extinguished by the water of the fleshly corpus, or as a unit of divine soul shut up here in the body as in a prison, grave or tomb. In the Greek language body (soma) and tomb (sema) are the same word. These knowing philosophers represented the soul as a bird in a prison or a cage beating its wings ineffectually against its clammy dungeon walls. How is it to be freed, how is the imprisoned splendor to be released? In the Bible allegory it is declared that the soul must convert its gaoler, who with a change of heart will then let it out. This is the task of the outer man, the human, who alone and in the domain of his personal life can liberate the deity whose benignant rays of living love will transfigure him. The infinite tragedy of the West's religion is that, by directing the eyes and the devotion of its millions of believers to the image of a carnalized dramatic figure of two thousand years ago, he is all too likely to be missing from his place in their lives, in their hearts and minds.

To: O'Hara who wrote (16944)	6/3/1998 11:41:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39621

Shalom, this demon who speaks is worse than FT. I would pray that you don't respond to him (them), as you once begged me to not respond to others. It is a conversation most foul, brought by a spirit most foul, and an enemy of Christ who even PREACHES CHRIST to take people away from Him. This is evil of an advanced nature. My feeling is that judgment will fall upon those who continue with this, and I have to beg you have no more exchange with advanced minnions. Whatever the semi-sweet lost lurkers a few years/months ago, these are hardcore, and I still cannot see a single scripture where we are encouraged to debate and let them vomit their words endlessly. If I'm wrong, believe me, God will forgive me in this matter. But this is sickning. It really is. It would not be possible for this garbage to be vomited here if there were not a host of Christians waiting to respond to each and every dropping. Am I wrong? Please correct me, but I still will not change my mind. START ANOTHER DISCUSSION THREAD FOR CURIOUS NON-BELIEVERS, AND LEAVE THIS ONE TO PAGANS TO BRING UPON THEMSELVES THE JUST RETRIBUTION OF SUCH RAILING AGAINST GOD. WE ARE MAKING IT POSSIBLE, AND ENCOURAGING IT BY CONSTANT RESPONSE. IT'S STARTING TO MAKE ME ALMOST SICK. SORRY, BUT IT'S TRUE. If these guys were here psycho-babbling by themselves, it would soon be a disserted thread. The ONLY PEOPLE ON EARTTH interested in God bashing are His dedicated enemies. NO ONE ELSE GIVES A FLYING FIG. Can't anyone figure that out? Start a Shalom's God Talk thread, so all of the sweet people who used to be here can come back. This is not only NOT edifying, I think the whole thing is sinful--sin is that which separates us from God. NO ONE here is vaguely or minutely edified, and all of these pagans are here by organized attacked. May the Blood of Jesus shut this thread down so that He may no longer be mocked by fools. But Shalom, please start a real thread about Godly questions if you can, and invite all of your friends back--if you can find them now. I know lthat this place is/was important, and no one knows that better than myself. I believe it has been wiped out and replaced by a landfill and garbage dump. To read this thread gives me a creepy feeling. No good is coming out of this that I can see. I have been wrong and will continue to be. I'm a human. But if I'm totally and completely wrong about this--WHICH I AM SURE I AM NOT--what is our Lord going to do? Throw me into hell because listening to endless and repetitious Christ bashing is making me sick? Don't really think so, so I feel free to speak as I feel.