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Biotech / Medical : VVUS: VIVUS INC. (NASDAQ) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: amc who wrote (9043)6/3/1998 6:18:00 PM
From: Philippe J. Dor  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23519
 
Shares Of Some Impotence-Drug Makers Slide On Comparison With Viagra
June 03, 1998 2:20 PM

NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Shares of several makers
of impotence drugs were under pressure Wednesday
after a story in The Wall Street Journal reported that
patients' first choice will likely be Pfizer Inc.'s
blockbuster Viagra, despite the success of other drugs.

The article mentioned Zonagen Inc., MacroChem Corp.
and Vivus Inc., which all have clinical trial results on their
products being presented this week at the American
Urological Association meeting in San Diego.

Researchers said that none of the other drugs has been
directly compared with Viagra. However, they all have
more side effects or are more difficult to use than
Viagra, the article said.

"The stocks are definitely reacting to the Journal article
and not the clinical results," said Edmund Debler, an
analyst at Mehta Partners.

At the Urological Association meeting Tuesday,
researchers presented data that indicated Zonagen's oral
drug Vasomax was well tolerated in Phase III, or
late-stage, trials.

Researchers also said Tuesday that data from a new
study confirms the safety and efficacy of MacroChem's
Topiglan gel for treatment of erectile dysfunction.

Data was presented Tuesday that indicated Vivus's
Muse treatment, which is inserted directly into the
urethra, was less effective than had been believed.

In afternoon trading, shares of Vivus (VVUS) were
down $1.563, or 18%, at $7.188. MacroChem
(MCHM) shares slipped 43.8 cents, or 3.9%, to
$10.938, and shares of Zonagen (ZONA) declined
$4.688, or 13%, to $32.063.

TAP Holdings Inc. was also mentioned in the article.
The company, a joint venture of Abbott Laboratories
and Takeda Chemical Industries Ltd. of Japan, is
developing apomorphine, which acts directly on the
brain to create erections. However, shares of Abbott
Labs (ABT) were up 12.5 cents at $36.688.

-By Jennifer Fron Mauer; 201-938-5287;
jennifer-fron.mauer@cor.dowjones.com

Copyright (c) 1998 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.

All Rights Reserved.



To: amc who wrote (9043)6/3/1998 6:33:00 PM
From: VLAD  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23519
 
To anyone,

As a shareholder what would it take to get this company to agree to a buy out by a large pharmaceutical company that would know how to effectively promote MUSE and doesn't roll over and play dead when times such as today occur? We now have a share price of $7 1/16 which is well below where we were when Vivus had no product approved, had no international sales agreements and had no factory to produce MUSE. The management obviously doesn't give a damn about "shareholder value" or else they would act accordingly.

It's too bad that a fairly decent product is owned by a company with no management skills. We need a buyout ASAP. After today, compare our market cap to that of the other NASDAQ ED players who only have pie in the sky to sell and substantial earning loses.

Someone once told me that on average it costs a company at least $300 million dollars to get a drug out on the market. After todays close we now have a company that once book value is subtracted has a market cap of about 115 million. In other words only about 1/3 of what it costs to research, market and develop the product. This is sickening to say the least!

I would rather hear of the companies sale than anything else including plant approval and much higher script numbers.
Get a decent player to take the helm and MUSE will command a value at least twice of the present market cap.



To: amc who wrote (9043)6/3/1998 7:07:00 PM
From: Tunica Albuginea  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23519
 
amc thank you for your comment:

<<After looking at the price history of vvus i can certainly
understand your hostility toward Pfizer but i also believe there
is a sucker born every minute. Please keep buying vvus to prove
my later point! >>.
From reviewing your profile's only other post
Message 2586810

<<<< To: +James O'Brien (11 )
From: +amc
Reply #12
Wednesday, Oct 29 1997 5:21PM ET
Are you the same people who demanded lower commissions because you didn't need a full service company to hold your hands? >>>

I will assume you are a broker. Statistically only one in twenty brokers knows his job, chuckle chuckle.
I have difficulty placing you, with only one sample for analysis, in the correct camp.; however judging by the lack of any ( medical ) data or any other data in your post, which is thus reduced to pure opinion, I think we can safely assume that you are an average guy, ie belonging to the majority of 19.

While you are giving us your unadulterated opinion, I would also appreciate knowing from you, at what point in time should I get really hostile with Pfizer: i.e., how many cardiovascular deaths and how many blind people do you think is a reasonable price/earnings ratio for this stock,

TA

PS As a friendly gesture, I will help you keep tab. So far we've had 5 documented deaths. Here are 2 more
Message 4710596

No blind people ( yet ).

By the way are you one of those brokers described in the above URL ?

"Investors and analysts have not been overly concerned about deaths on Viagra and expect that the media will make a bigger deal about them than is warranted ".

One mor question: are any of your Urologists advisers part of this other group, in the same URL

" Certainly, here at the American Urological Association meeting, Viagra fervor has been undiminished amid the occasional reports of deaths and ocular side effects ".

Don't get hot now, I am just asking .