Hello TUNA, are you there?
Yes I am here Vrobin. I tried to get hold of my brother TUNA but he is too busy with Vivus thread.
So he just vaxed, vvvfaxed me, fffffffaxed, me his latest opinion and asked me to vread it to you as it is.And here it is:
( By de vay, he seemed to be very serious and upset about de ole thing and said to just post his answer, and hear it is ):
To: VLAD ( # 9069)
From Tunica Albuginea,Wednesday, Jun 3 1998 11:09PM ET
Reply #9079 of 9093
VLAD: OUTLOOK for PFIZER and VIAGRA. As a physician, let me take this further.
First of all, let me announce that IMHO, if you have shorted Pfizer, DO N O T C O V E R Y E T . My target price for covering is ' ~ $65 - 70. ( Zebra, are you listening? ).
Next, the deaths.
Some statistics and observations and then some conclusions:
- 75% of all men die of coronary artery disease ( CAD ).
- -it is the #1 cause of death in US.
- Death is by a massive heart attack or by an arrhythmia ( heart rhythm irregularity ).
- BOTH are preceded by hypotension.
- Both can be relieved ( temporarily { hours } or for longer time months, years )
By nitrates.
- fundamental therapy for coronary artery disease ( alias angina pectoris, alias coronary
arteriosclerosis,alias iscemic heart disease, alias congestive heart failure ) are
nitrates and Ace -Inhibitors.( Zestril is the drug taken by the recently alleged Viagra
death, the Obstetrician that that died in the Mass General ER
- there are over one million heart attacks a year and over 700,000 men die every year
from it.
- probably 30% of impotent men have coronary artery disease
Conclusions:
- a very LARGE no of impotent men has the leading cause of death, CAD, and a large no is taking either nitrates AND / OR ace- inhibitors.
- A rising no of deaths is so far been reported, of men taking the combination of Viagra, and Nitrates and/or Ace Inhibitors.
- -that no will rise steadily because of the large amount of people taking Viagra.
- This men MOST likely, IMHO, HAVE NOT been screened for CAD by their Urologists, because Urologists are not qualified to do that.
- -Many, may lie about their symptoms, so as to get Viagra.
What will happen as a result of that?
Simply, we will go back, time and again, to that old American pastime: Gambling. No, not Vegas or the stock market ( which lately stinks ), but to a more proven method:
L A W S U I T S.
The plaintiffs will simply allege that
-the deceased did not have a stress thallium to detect CAD
-he did not have a 24 hour cardiac monitor to detect an arrhythmia that could have been worsened by Viagra.
-he did not have an echocardiogram to diagnose CAD
-He was NOT told that VIAGRA is contraindicated with Nitrates, ace-inhibitors, and soon to be added, other hypotensive agents, such as most antihypertensives as well Lasix and such diuretics.
-that NO such precautions are documented in the Urologists or Fam MD's chart.
-that because the patient was a smoker, was overweight, sedentary,with a high cholesterol,
the Urologist and ESPECIALLY the primary care physician ( in the HMO? GG: I can already see screams from HMO CEOs!!!! To pay for all these tests, GG. ) had a DUTY to SCREEN the deceased with all the above tests prior to giving him Viagra.
( Of course the plaintiffs will allege nothing because they are deceased.It will be the forlorn children and spouse to make this allegations of having been deprived of the love and companionship of their beloved deceased male ).
The result:
A )Pfizer will allege that the patient had other reasons to die from.
That will not carry in court. If ANY of the several above mentioned steps in CAD prevention and care is missing , the plaintiff will allege, and the jury will concur, that Viagra COULD HAVE been the cause and so the case will be settled in court, or out of court.
Furthermore, because Pfizer, the Docs, Urologists, and HMOs are ALL RICH folks, with DEEP pockets, these suits will be settled for large amounts of money.
B) Anybody doubt this? VLAD, you mentioned Silicon breast implants.Let me also remind you of
-Prozac and Scientology
-Bendectin with pregnant women
-All meds with pregnant women and child birth defects.
-FenFen / Redux for obesity
Just some.
C) when the HMOs start seeing the costs of detecting CAD AND monitoring CAD AND paying for Viagra , while on Viagra, at a time of rising HMO premiums and companies complaining these premiums, they will mount a PR campaign that Viagra is too dangerous and they will pressure PFE and the FDA to take it off the market.
At that point, PFE will be back, If they are lucky, were they started: $40/ share.
How long will it take for this scenario to evolve. Not long at all, IMHO, because
 the giant amount of men taking this pill helter skelter
 the giant publicity, before now and after now, for Viagra.
 The deep pockets involved
 The giant amount of lawyers looking for cash flow; ( and of patients I may add )
 The repidly shrinking healthcare dollar to pay even for health essentials, let alone " the luxury of sex".( Sorry, had to put that in.Not everybody thinks sex is a necessity, GG ).
I will be glad to entertain alternate points of view,
TA
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