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To: Grainne who wrote (16996)	6/4/1998 8:11:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Christine: Give up on Bob. He is a blind, programmed robot-parrot. If the Nazis had gotten him when he was a kid he probably would've been a proud member of the Hitler Youth. You may as well argue with a bowl of melting jell-o, as it probably has more consistency than what is left of the rational gray-matter within his bobbing, bombed-out skull. Father Terrence

To: Grainne who wrote (16996)	6/5/1998 8:43:00 AM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

My dear Christine, It is a common practice of people who believe as you do to try to associate my beliefs with extremists and haters. It is an attempt to discredit the info we are bringing out in the eyes of the general public. I am not an extremist or a hater. I don't want to blow up your office building, I want to take you to lunch. Your attitude does not help the debate. You have not just heard those views from the extremist groups you mentioned. You have heard then from me too, and I'm not involved with any such group at all and NEVER have been. As long as the new world order proponents can associate the people who are saying "watch out, this will be bad" with extremists then they have nullified their opposition to their own plans to bring about this very bad new world order. If you are not the kind of person who would commit murder then you don't want to be in the new age spiritualism or the new world order. It's the same spirit as was directing hitler and the nazi's. The new age idea that you are becoming a god yourself or are evolving as a spiritual being is a lie. It keeps you occupied until the devil is ready to claim your soul. If you think that's off the wall consider the fact that you are involved with a new age spiritualism. You know that is true. From that we can say if you are then it is more likely that the things I am saying are true also. If there was no push towards a new world order then you could say that what I say is off the wall. But we both know there is a new world order being brought in. We are not discussing if it exists, only it's character and what impact it will have on man. I say they are in the same spirit as the Nazi's of WWII; you say it will be a good thing. So look at what spirit controls us. You have the spirit of this world and I have the spirit of Jesus. This world's spirit also brought about the holocaust, the spirit of Jesus brings peace, joy, love. You will want to point to all those who in the name of Jesus have done all sorts of evil. Well, there claim to Jesus is false. John said in 1st John 1:6,"If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth;" and in 2:4 it says, "The one who says, "I have come to know Him", and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;" and in 2:9, "The one who says he is of the light and yet hates his brother is in the darkness until now." You see, these extremist hate groups who claim to understand the bible and know God are labeled liars by the same bible they hold in their hand (if they ever really read it) and they don't even know it. They give christianity a bad name and Jesus. Are you part of a group that is working towards "a new age of man"? The "new age movement" has recruited thousands to help at the grassroots level. You are doing your part on this thread defending the whole thing by trying to discredit legitimate concerns about the morals and character of this new government. Bob PS home.att.net