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To: WTCausby who wrote (17011)	6/4/1998 8:05:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Tom, Indeed Hitler was a christian, as were all the 'wise' and 'learned' men (read: despots) who headed up the many forms of the Inquisition. Father Terrence

To: WTCausby who wrote (17011)	6/4/1998 10:20:00 PM
From: mark silvers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Tom Please read what I said in it's entirety. He may have been born a christian(he was) but i said that he didnt represent Chritian values and in no way reflected on Christianity. He no more represented christian values than any other phsyco. Many people are born into a religion and claim to be a part of it, but in reality act totally contrary to the values of the religion. that happens within all religions. I certainly dont think that David Berkowitz(son of Sam) represents the jewish faith. I hope you understand where I'm coming from. Mark

To: WTCausby who wrote (17011)	6/5/1998 1:10:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Here are two excerpts from an OSS profile of Adolf Hitler. They are quotes from Hitler himself, making very clear that he considered himself Christian: It seems certain that Hitler believes that he has been sent Germany by Providence and that he has a particular mission to perform. He is probably not clear on the scope of this mission beyond the fact that he has been chosen to redeem the German people and reshape Europe. Just how this is to be accomplished is also rather vague in his mind, but this does not concern him greatly because an "inner voice" communicates to him the steps [Page 10] he is to take. This is the guide which leads him on his course with the precision and security of a sleep-walker. "I carry out the commands that Providence has laid upon me." (490) "No power on earth can shake the German Reich now, Divine Providence has willed it that I carry through the fulfillment of the Germanic task." (413) "But if the voice speaks, then I know the time has come to act." (714) It is this firm conviction that he has a mission and is under the guidance and protection of Providence which is responsible in large part for the contagious effect he has had on the German people. After his stay in Landsberg Hitler no longer referred to himself as the "drummer." Occasionally, he would describe himself in the words of St. Matthew, "as a voice crying in the wilderness", or as St. John the Baptist whose duty was to hew a path for him who was to come and lead the nation to power and glory. More frequently, however, he referred to himself as "the Fuehrer", a name chosen by Hess during their imprisonment. (901) As time went on, it became clearer that he. was thinking of himself as the Messiah and that it was he who was destined to lead Germany to glory. His references to the Bible became more frequent and the movement began to take on a religious [page 13] atmosphere. Comparisons between Christ and himself became more numerous and found their way into his conversation and speeches. For example, he would say: "When I came to Berlin a few weeks ago and looked at the traffic in the Kurfuerstendamm, the luxury, the perversion, the iniquity, the wanton display, and the Jewish materialism disgusted me so thoroughly, that I was almost beside myself. I nearly imagined myself to be Jesus Christ when He came to His Father's temple and found it taken by the money-changers. I can well imagine how He felt when He seized a whip and scourged them out." (905) During his speech, according to Hanfstangl, he swung his whip around violently as though to drive out the Jews and the forces of darkness, the enemies of Germany and German honor. Dietrich Eckart, who discovered Hitler as a possible leader and had witnessed this performance, said later, "When a man gets to the point of identifying himself with Jesus Christ, then he is ripe for an insane asylum." The identification in all this was not with Jesus Christ, the Crucified, but with Jesus Christ, the furious, lashing the crowds. As a matter of fact, Hitler has very little admiration for Christ, the Crucified. Although he was brought up a Catholic, and received Communion, during the war, he severed his connection with the Church directly afterwards. This kind of Christ he considers soft and weak and unsuitable as a German Messiah. The latter must be hard and brutal if he is to save Germany and lead it to its destiny. "My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, [Page 14] surrounded by only a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned me to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love, as a Christian and as a man, I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord rose at last in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was the fight for the world against the Jewish poison." (M.N.O. 26) nizkor.org