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To: E*Trader who wrote (8763)	6/5/1998 7:28:00 PM
From: Howard C.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11850

I don't know the background of this particular dispute, but I totally agree with you...we all have to show RESPECT for others and assume they have legitimate concerns up until the time it can be shown that their concerns are self centered and manipulative. I think that should be a part of our credo, there is no room for direct or implied bigotry of any kind here.

To: E*Trader who wrote (8763)	6/5/1998 7:31:00 PM
From: V$gas.Com	Respond to of 11850

Mr. Awadalla, If I attacked you in any way, I sincerely apologize. You're right, we all need to use better judgement and protocal from here on out. Warmest Regards, Bob

To: E*Trader who wrote (8763)	6/5/1998 7:41:00 PM
From: Jim TenIron	Respond to of 11850

Mr. Awadalla, If I remember correctly it was your lack of research concerning a post of mackers concerning the date of a news release (crazy 8) which first brought about the responses. You jumped in and asked why macker was changing his words, which in fact, macker did no such thing. This appeared to be an attack of character, and you can imagine what that feels like, I'm sure. I simply stated that you should go back and re-read the thread. There have been others come here, as well as other threads, with the intention of causing hate and discontent. This will not be tolerated here. A legit question concerning the fundamentals are expected, but please remember. All should due their own DD, as much as possible, draw their own conclusions, and invest accordingly. Have a nice weekend. SC

To: E*Trader who wrote (8763)	6/5/1998 7:47:00 PM
From: Mark G	Respond to of 11850

I for one am glad to see your posts on this board. I'm sorry that you took so much heat over voicing your concerns. In the last 8000 or so posts, many newcommers have posted negatively about ICVI. These people did not have the sincerity or heartfelt concern that you did. Unfortunately, as an unfamiliar name, you may have suffered some slings and arrows intended for those others. Your obvious sincerity certainly separates you from that crowd in my book. Also, on email and voice mail, it is pretty to go a little over board about things for which you have a great passion. If you've ever been on the receiving end of a a voice mail from an irrate boss, you know what I mean. Anyway, the past is the past. I look forward to your next post. Mark G enjoying a little left coast cabernet.

To: E*Trader who wrote (8763)	6/5/1998 7:58:00 PM
From: RocketMan	Respond to of 11850

Mr. Awadalla, I agree with your sentiment, and thank you for recognizing that I was not one of the persons attacking you. Also, I am apalled that anyone would have made any ethnic attacks on you, whatever your ethnicity might be (don't know what kind of name that is, and don't care). But anyone expressing nervousness about ivesting in ICVI or any penny stock is welcome to express that nervousness. I dare say anyone saying they are not nervous is in denial. High rewards comes with high risks, and hopefully we are taking calculated risks, not stupid ones. I hope that you will forgive whoever you felf was attacking you, and join us on this thread. And everyone please remember, we are all here as independent, individual investors responsible to no one but ourselves.

To: E*Trader who wrote (8763)	6/5/1998 7:58:00 PM
From: Rangel Melendez	Respond to of 11850

Bill I apologize, if I offended you or others. My intent was to force people to read through the thread instead of asking redundant questions. A lot of these concerns have been addressed many times but some are too lazy to go through the thread and digest the pertinent information. I also understand that some persons are too busy to go through such an immense thread. However you can go to the info only thread and get answers there. I do worry, but having read and seen what macker and his group have done I rest assure that we will all be winners. When I read you post for the first time you came across as a new naysayer. Again accept my apologies and welcome to the group. DE OPPRESSO LIBER

To: E*Trader who wrote (8763)	6/5/1998 8:03:00 PM
From: justaninvestor	Respond to of 11850

Hi William - That was a great post and I hope you receive as many positive responses to it as you received negative ones for your first post. Imagine that you're at a party with a lot of your closest friends and the host is a guy that everyone loves and respects. Out of the blue, some guy who no one knows walks in and starts trashing the host. How do you think the party would react? In effect, that's what happened to you yesterday William. No, you didn't exactly trash Macker, but any disparaging word would have and did set people off. There is no excuse for any who might have used a racial pejorative, but I hope that you can understand any other reactions. I hope that you will continue to post. bbruin -"Hold long, Be strong & Don't whine"

To: E*Trader who wrote (8763)	6/5/1998 8:03:00 PM
From: Rock_nj	Respond to of 11850

William, You didn't receive those responses because you questioned whether or not we would see the press release. You received those responses because you sounded as though you were criticizing Macker for not knowing exactly when the press release would come out. Noone knows exactly when it will come out. It will come out when it comes out. Macker has no obligation to share his DD info with others; he does it out of a good heart. Instead of criticizing someone else's DD, why don't you pick up the phone and/or read and do your own DD to confirm or debunk DD claims. I'm sorry you got off to such a rough start on this thread. Welcome aboard!

To: E*Trader who wrote (8763)	6/6/1998 12:13:00 AM
From: Jim B	Respond to of 11850

I must have missed your post and the heat you took.. any questions you have that maybe I can try to answer?? if I dont' have the answers.. I'll let you know.. you can either post them here or PM me... always good to have both sides of the story.. I've always maintained that.. HOWEVER.. and some people don't get this.. it should be done ethically and with respect to others.. (not saying you didn't show respect cuz I didn't see your posts).. keep it clean and if someone gets out of control.. let's just ignore them.. no "CLICK"s or "NEXT" or any of that nonsense.. and also if someone who is LONG here gets also out of control trying to trash the trashers.. let's work together to keep them calm as well.. we're a team here people.. when the quarterback gets upset.. it's up to his team members to step it up and help him out and keep him calm.. and work to get everyone FOCUSED back on the issues at hand.. and NOT let the emotion get the best of you... take care jim

To: E*Trader who wrote (8763)	6/6/1998 9:17:00 AM
From: Jgilbert	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 11850

Sir: You must understand this is a cheerleading session, not a rational discussion group. If you express doubts about the value of your investment, you will be called a naysayer or a shill for the nefarious MMs. Whatever you do, say only positive things about ICVI, or some paranoid lurking herein might sell his shares for a quick profit and cause a dip in the stock price or heaven forbid, cause the so-called Rocketeers to reassess what they call DD, which may stand for Due Diligence or something else. Now get back in line and repeat the mantra: "When the news comes out, this stock will soar." You won't find the emperor's new suit on this board, but that doesn't mean you should cease searching. Best wishes. I hope we all get rich or richer, as the case may be.