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To: gnuman who wrote (57368)	6/6/1998 11:49:00 AM
From: Fred Fahmy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Gene, <Getting these design wins was a big deal for AMD and Cyrix.> If they were such a big deal how come these companies continue to lose money with no end in sight? A big deal for AMD or Cyrix/NSM will be when/if they ever return to profitability. That would be a big deal. Anyone can get a design win if they are willing to lose money in doing so. BTW, what is the source of ZD's "poll" and how scientific is it? Do you really believe these figures?? If so, how do you explain why AMD/Cyrix still have such a tiny market share?? How come 7-8 out of every 10 PC's being sold aren't AMD or Cyrix since everyone seems willing to buy non-Intel chips?? These systems are cheaper right?? Let's see, lower prices and a huge (almost 80% according to the "poll") willingness of people to use clones yet the clones still sell have a very small market share?? What's wrong with this picture?? Do you think a survey of corporate IS/IT managers would also yield the same results?? FF

To: gnuman who wrote (57368)	6/6/1998 3:00:00 PM
From: Joey Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Gene, first of all, this survey is most likely NOT very scientific. If the voting was done via the Internet, then it is HIGHLY biased towards the computer literate, which does not take into account the average PC buyer who does know much and relies heavily on brand name. Also, the survey doesn't take into account business purchasers. What would have been "more" interesting is to see the trend over time (keeping the data collection method the same). Ask yourself why AMD STILL has to price their chips 25% below Intel's if AMD is starting to reach parity in consumer's minds??? Bottom line: the survey results are crap. joey