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To: Tony Viola who wrote (57506)	6/8/1998 1:41:00 PM
From: Gary Ng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tony, Re: They'll clean up in all just about all computing areas except mainframes, IMNSHO. What would prevent Merced(or whatever follows it) being used as the processor for S390 ? IBM is now using PPC in AS400 I believe. Gary

To: Tony Viola who wrote (57506)	6/8/1998 1:41:00 PM
From: rudedog	Respond to of 186894

Tony - A current joke going around is that MSFT is shooting for 23x7 reliability. Another one is that they are trying to achieve the 'first 9' in availability. no secret that they will not be jumping into that market any time soon, except to the cheerleaders with no idea what it takes to run a production shop...

To: Tony Viola who wrote (57506)	6/8/1998 1:56:00 PM
From: DragonBoy	Respond to of 186894

Tony, Thanks for the good post and information. As I said it will kill them, it's matter of time. Who like to learn to program mainframe anyway? Ask the new college graduate students. System 370, 390. PLI, PLAS, Cobol yuck! yuck!. I agreed with you distributed computing is not there yet. Wintel will start to grow more herbs in IBM's garden. I don't want Wintel to kill them yet though, there is a lot of money to be made with high end servers. More and more company now made Raids system for NT. I saw quite a few refrigerator like boxes with hot swappable SCSI drives. Once the Wintel power match the main frame, it's all over for IBM. Wintel will be much cheaper to maintain. There are new graduate MS network engineers everyday. System 390 mainframe with radiator inside is for Old time boring IBMers to keep. Those guys program mainframes for years, some one never see the machines or know what it looks like. They are really having fun with that dummy terminals hey!. NT is so cool you can touch and feel and program that suckers. Play some cool games if you ever get so boring. What is the IBM programmer do? Chewing nails in front of the dummy terminal, uuuuh it is such a fun.