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Politics : Formerly About Applied Materials -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Teri Skogerboe who wrote (20023)6/8/1998 8:22:00 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 70976
 
Found this rusting jem in the NY Times archives. It's comforting to know that everyone was just as confused in the past as they are now.

February 15, 1996
Excess Inventory of Chips Seen as Mixed Signal

By LAWRENCE M. FISHER

SAN FRANCISCO -- After four years of double-digit growth, the semiconductor industry is asking whether it can defy gravity much longer. The answer is far from certain, considering the conflicting fortunes of two bellwether companies.

Late Tuesday, Cirrus Logic Inc. forecast a net loss for its fourth quarter, which ends on March 30, and revenues lower than those in its third quarter. Its shares plunged $3.625 Wednesday, or 15.6 percent, to $19.625 on the Nasdaq. The company makes a wide variety of chips.

On the other hand, Applied Materials Inc., the leading producer of equipment for making semiconductors, announced record results late Tuesday for the first quarter, ended on Jan. 28, and said that orders remain strong.

Shares of Applied Materials rose 62.5 cents to $39 in Nasdaq trading. Applied Materials said that first-quarter net income rose 161 percent to $172 million, or 93 cents a share, from $65.8 million, or 38 cents, last year. Revenue also more than doubled to $1.04 billion from $506.1 million.

The divergent reports came just days after the Semiconductor Industry Association reported that its main indicator of business conditions dropped to an unexpected five-year low in January. That indicator, called the book-to-bill ratio, declined to 0.93, meaning that for every $100 worth of chips shipped, only $93 worth was ordered. That indicated a slowdown in sales, the trade organization said.

Some analysts said Wednesday that the conflict between the reports was not meaningful, because Cirrus Logic and Applied Materials are in such different businesses. Cirrus makes chips for PCs, and is directly affected by slower-than-expected PC sales. Applied Materials supplies the equipment to make chips, which it sells far in advance of the chip production and is therefore less influenced by short-term cycles.

"The economics driving the semiconductor equipment companies has almost nothing to do with the semiconductor companies," said Michael Murphy, publisher of the California Technology Stock Letter.

Equipment purchases "have much longer lead times, and are driven in large part by the need to upgrade process technology," Murphy said. Chip makers need new equipment "to get into the 21st century, and they are not about to hold back because the price of memory has fallen."

But the projected loss at Cirrus and the decline in the book-to-bill ratio are important, Murphy said, although he said that he suspects the latter was distorted by the chip association's methodology.

Slower PC sales in the final quarter of last year led to excess inventory, he said. "It hurt the December quarter, and will hurt the March quarter some, but I think it's about over," he said. "We're buying the stocks, wherever it makes sense," said Murphy, who also runs investment portfolios.

But Rick Whittington, an analyst with the Soundview Financial Group, took a bearish view, saying that Applied Materials's healthy order rate now would only cause excess chip capacity in the years to come.

At Cirrus Logic, the question was how long the slowdown would last. "If PC unit growth doesn't increase in the first and second quarters, then by the second half of the year we will be in a miserable position of oversupply," Whittington said. "Semiconductor stocks have lagged the broad market for so long that customers want to buy them, but what they're ignoring is this tremendous capacity addition going on. I have to conclude we are on the verge of a 1985- to '86-like disaster," he said. "Sell the stocks."

In 1985 and 1986 Japanese chip manufacturers slashed prices on commodity chips, like dynamic random access memory chips, or DRAMs, in an effort to gain market share. Although the United States imposed sanctions against Japan for "dumping" their products, it had a devastating effect on U.S. chip makers.

With companies in Japan, Korea, Taiwan and other Asian countries now buying equipment capable of making a broad range of chips, the stage is set for oversupply across the industry worldwide, Whittington said.

Dan Niles, an analyst with Robertson Stephens & Co., said he was more positive, at least in the near term. He said the excess of memory and other chips, coupled with Intel Corp.'s recent price cuts on Pentium microprocessors, would lower prices on personal computers. Price cuts on powerful PC's would likely prompt corporations to upgrade from older machines, Niles said.

"You could see a pretty strong second half of the year," Niles said. "This is not the end of the world."



To: Teri Skogerboe who wrote (20023)6/8/1998 8:55:00 PM
From: akidron  Respond to of 70976
 
Yeah... the name of the game is make the number... but we all know what happens when we postpone the inevitable - the inevitable hurts more.... for longer,



To: Teri Skogerboe who wrote (20023)6/9/1998 7:08:00 AM
From: Alan Siegal  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 70976
 
The Times' story had me confused on two fronts; maybe someone can help me grasp it.

First, it presented a general discussion of the [questionable] practice of taking early write-offs. I have always considered the use of scheduled depreciation to be a method by which the government manages to impose taxes more than anything else. I understand the principle, but I know very well in my mind that, for instance, when I buy a $2000 computer for my office, I have essentially SPENT that money. It has a liquidation value of zero. If I were forced to sell my business, the buyer would let me know that my brand new machine is worth nothing to him, and that it would actually cost him money to have it auctioned off. I would love to take 2K off the top of my income, but the government only allows me 1/3. To be sure, if I were to write off the whole thing in one year, I'd have a prettier next year (assuming I bought nothing new), but that's just the way it is. In other words, early write-offs strike me as essentially conservative, making the current year look the worst possible, then hoping for better times in the future. So there's my first question --do we as investors consider early write-offs to be a great sin, or is it just a way to recognize reality and hope for a better future?

Second, the article dropped the issue it had just presented and goes into the specifics of AMAT. It complains that a licensing fee should have been written off as an operating expense, not as acquired R&D, and that doing it smells of chicanery. It also pointed out that AMAT didn't return their call, the implication being that evil is afoot. Whether written off as acquired R&D or operating expense, isn't the effect the same--that the company may legally represent their profits to be lower than if the cost were spread over a period of years? The point of this second part of the story seems to be contrary to the meaning of the issue the author set up in the first half, hence my bewilderment. (Maybe consistency is a hobgoblin of this small mind.)

Am I as a shareholder not happy that I have achieved capital deepening
at the same time as reducing my tax bill? Am I distraught that when the earnings are high in the future owing to the lack of depreciation that I'll have a big tax bill? Maybe management will find a way to make the company even bigger yet write off a new 'expense' at that time. Someone please disabuse me of my optimism.

-Alan



To: Teri Skogerboe who wrote (20023)6/9/1998 10:59:00 AM
From: Knighty Tin  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 70976
 
Skeets, I have not seen this article, but the writeoff scams inflating earnings has been going on for this entire manic bubble. Forbes and Barron's have run several pieces on it.

So, not only are eps trending lower, but their quality is lousy. Hey, that's a great reason for an all-time high in pe ratios. -g-

MB