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To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (103)	6/8/1998 8:40:00 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 174

First off-your example is not (unfortunately) an extreme one. As a social worker, I heard those same sentiments expressed by several of my clients who honestly believed that it was their "God-given right to have children". They really seemed unable to connect the idea of this "right" as being somehow incompatible with asking other people to support them. Would you like me to be really outrageous? Many of these children were not born with the genetic potential to become strong contributing members of society. They were crippled not just by their genes, but by their limited upbringing, and by the often negligent environment in which they lived-either with bio parents or in foster care. So while we may have an obligation to take care of all children, once born, are we truly compelled to support the product of others' irresponsible acts ad infinitum? I vote no. I am for very strict controls. If people are incapable of supporting children, the children should be removed at birth for adoption after the first one (maybe two?). We have subsidized an entire subculture which has propagated and survived only because of the support of tax dollars. There is a point at which the system becomes overwhelmed and fails, and I think we are past it. I believe the parasites are in control.

To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (103)	6/8/1998 8:48:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 174

Alex: Guess I'm first to take this tasty bait you are dangling. But I'll keep it short. 1. The ultimate right is for a person to have control over their own body. 2. No one has a right to anything any other has produced -- even a plate of old, cold beans. 3. The State does not have the right to undermine individual's rights by supporting (or rewarding) the folly of one or more of the members of its society -- especially to the detriment of other's rights in that society. 4. The anecdote you relate has a woman who presupposes that society is going to take care of her and her children. She is right to believe that in a socialist state. She would NEVER believe that in a free country. 5. The anecdote also serves to underscore that, despite popular delusion to the contrary, the USA is not truly a free country anymore. How's that for openers? Father Terrence