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To: ahhaha who wrote (12742)	6/9/1998 5:53:00 AM
From: Alex	Read Replies (7) \| Respond to of 116791

With all due respect. I have witnessed, in the past 10 years, the liquidating of the infrastructure and glue that helped to keep our society together, and all in the name of what? Greater wealth disparity. More debt. Record bankruptcies. The true effects of this has been masked by the illusion of increased wealth in an inflated market mania. All ya have to do is hold the right magic beans and salvation is yours. Insiders, paid in stock options, have 'earned' theirs. Money managers, who skim from the top, have 'earned' theirs. The Al Dunlaps of the world have taken very good care of themselves thank you very much. And the working people of North America, who have been thrown to the wolves, have been told that they too can be part of this Magic Kingdom. But of course. They are told, with straight faces no less, that it is the high cost of their very wages and benefits that threaten their Magic Kingdom. Trade them in for some magic beans. Trust us. What twisted logic is this? Pay no heed that the profits made from these concessions 'guarantee' the wealth of the insiders (the risk takers). Don't question why the profits you have produced have been invested in state of the art plants in third world countries, where people will work for a pittance, and are now being used 'against' you. This never-ending downward spiral brought on by the free flow of capital and goods is, after all, nirvana. God forbid that the people who actually produce the goods and profits, who pay the bill for all this crap, who have mortgaged their lives for their companies, should ask for a piece of the pie. What an unruly mob.

To: ahhaha who wrote (12742)	6/9/1998 6:11:00 AM
From: robnhood	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116791

ahahaha, <<. Now you know why there is a little guy. It's a matter of free choice.>> Cumon,, <<ggg>> Little guys are born, not made... How many families control most of the wealth on this planet who were born into it... What chance has a little uneducated family in Chiapas got against some paid mercenaries . What chance do peasants in Nigeria have against Royal Dutch Shell or Exxon.. russell

To: ahhaha who wrote (12742)	6/9/1998 7:03:00 AM
From: Bobby Yellin	Respond to of 116791

"it is true that only God is the doer, but all these people are far, far away from understanding what that means as they are far, far away from doing any good." ---beautiful!

To: ahhaha who wrote (12742)	6/9/1998 7:22:00 AM
From: robnhood	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116791

<<It is true that only God is the doer,>> And how do you know that? troublemaking russell

To: ahhaha who wrote (12742)	6/9/1998 12:00:00 PM
From: Alan Whirlwind	Respond to of 116791

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To: ahhaha who wrote (12742)	6/9/1998 8:30:00 PM
From: Abner Hosmer	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 116791

ahhaha, It's interesting to read the acerbic responses to your post, by which your point is well made. I think that many people object to the idea that the value of their skills should be set essentially by auctioning their labor in a free market. They believe that they should be paid according to what they "deserve", rather than by the value of their skills, so "someone" must necessarily be compelled to pay whatever price they demand. Never in any society in history has such an endless array of opportunity been available to so many. Never have so many had such access to education, to such an unlimited number of paths by which a person might improve their lot in life. Never in any society have so many arrived on her shores with literally nothing, not a dollar, not even a grasp of the language, and gone on to earn such un-imagined prosperity. Never mind all of that, there are still those who will hold that a man is the helpless victim of circumstances and forces beyond his control, manipulated, enslaved and abused by immoral, greedy men with black hearts full of evil intent. They believe that "someone" has an obligation to provide everyone else with a pleasant standard of living, so it stands to reason that if all are not prosperous, it must be because "someone", in their "greed", is withholding that prosperity. Somehow, it never occurs to them to set about the difficult task themselves of providing someone with a nice job, and paying them an outstanding wage. But after all, it's much easier to point the finger at someone else, rather than go to all the trouble of providing the job yourself. Still, if only they themselves were in charge, there would be an unlimited number of great jobs for everyone, no matter how humble, and all persons would enjoy equal prosperity.