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To: Mark Fowler who wrote (5301)6/10/1998 12:35:00 AM
From: Candle stick  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 164684
 
I am out of this but one last note....you have to wonder about a sector like the internet sector....today CNET was up 12+ YHOO 8+ AMZN 5+ SEEK 3+ and so on and so on..why? because NBC validated the sector by making an investment in Cnet. What did they invest? 26 million dollars..................

dailynews.yahoo.com

and the top internet stocks tacked on about....oh I don't know, 2 billion dollars in market cap?....is anybody out there paying attention?

I called it quits today on the short AMZN position after the break of 50(a new alltime high)....in the land of the internet 2+2=14, not 4, and until reality checks in, there is no top for AMZN....It is now worth 2.5 billion dollars, more than BKS or BGP, good companies with billions in sales and profits and online presence......AMZN will not
make money this year, nor will they make money in 1999, and perhaps 2 cents in 2000...those are not my opinions, those are the analysts expectations.....AMZN faces enormous and growing competition, ads are all over TV and the radio for barnesandnoble.com but yet AMZN marches forward....AMZN has no patents, and is a reseller of a commodity item.....traditional valuation models have AMZN generously priced at anywhere from 3-15 dollars per share, yet the price is 10 times that.....analysts have been lowering their expectations in the last few days, yet the stock makes new highs...."Relevant Knowledge", the 'Nielson ratings' on the 'net, say AMZN unique hits are down 14% from April into MAY ( see "RelevantKnowledge Top 25 Web Properties and Domains for the April 1998 reporting period" in the Online Communications folder, at
boards.fool.com.
The post immediately before that is the Media Metrix Top 25 Web Site and Web Property Rankings for April 1998," at boards.fool.com .)

Yet, today AMZN makes its single biggest one day advance in the history of the stock. And there is no news.....AMZN is not a company. AMZN is not a stock. AMZN is just what you see....a four letter symbol, which is being daytraded like mad. Why? Because the daytraders can. Thats it. This is not investment. This is a pinball game. At 2.5 billion $ AMZN is worth more that the biggest U.S. booksellers with long histories and proven track records....so why not go to 3 billion, 5 billion or 10 billion????? No reason not to. We are looking at a supply demand market of a four letter symbol....today demand was high, tomorrow????? who knows.....but one thing I do know, is that valuation has nothing to do with it.

Best of luck to all of you, and whatever your AMZN positions may be, remember that in the end, the very far off end, whenever that may be, the fundamentals always come back into play....will it be at 52? 72? 102? 202? that I can't tell you....but when the music stops, the end will be just 2.......IMHO

I live to short again!.........;^)



To: Mark Fowler who wrote (5301)6/10/1998 1:21:00 AM
From: Mark Fowler  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
Wall Street Journal: Front Page Monday, June 8, 1998

Internet Is Opening Up A
New Era of Pricing.

The Outlook
WASHINGTON

Electronic commerce may be the next "killer" application on the
Internet, but right now it is killing prices.

A whole new world of buying and selling via the Internet is taking
shape, and to venture capitalists, entrepreneurs and purveyors of
technology gear, it looks like the next great thing.

But the immediate reality is this: Many goods and services are cheaper
on the Web than off it. It's cheaper to buy and sell stocks. It's cheaper
to buy books, although shipping costs can gobble up much of the
savings. And, it should be said, many newspapers are cheaper on the
Internet than in print -- about 72% cheaper in the case of The Wall
Street Journal.

But the story of the Internet's role in pricing goods and services is just
beginning to unfold. More than a new way to take orders or delivery,
the Internet is emerging as a paradise for comparison shoppers. The
past couple of years have brought a slew of Web sites and on-line
services that put more information about prices into the hands of
buyers. With vastly better data on prices of golf clubs, airline tickets
and cars, consumers are cutting better deals.

A couple of years ago, the idea of hiring an electronic agent, or
"knowbot," was mostly the wishful thinking of fuzzy futurists. Today,
shopping "bots" are real. At sites such as jango.com and junglee.com,
electronic search engines cruise the Internet and come back with a list
of items, prices and merchants. Most of the items can then be bought
on-line with a few mouse clicks.

"There is nothing more terrifying than a consumer who knows
everything about the pricing of your product," says Kenneth Orton,
president and chief executive of Preview Travel Inc., an on-line travel
agency based in San Francisco. Its services include a Web-based
"bargain finder" that scans for cheap air fares.

To be sure, consumers will spend only $3.3 billion via electronic
commerce this year, predicts Forrester Research Inc. Even the
projected rise to $7 billion or so by the year 2000 is small change in
the $7 trillion U.S. economy.

Business-to-business commerce on the Internet is expected to dwarf
the consumer sector. The on-line transaction business of just three
companies -- Cisco Systems Inc., Dell Computer Corp. and General
Electric Co. -- totaled about $3 billion last year, the Commerce
Department said in an April report. The combined Internet commerce
of these three companies will grow to $17 billion a year within three to
five years, and the U.S. total could top $300 billion.

On the consumer side, the on-line figures exclude cases where
consumers search for the best deals on the Internet and then
complete the actual purchase at traditional brick-and-mortar stores.

The auto business is being rapidly transformed by consumers who use
the Internet to find the lowest prices. J.D. Power & Associates, an
auto-research firm, recently found that 22% of car buyers pay the full
sticker price, but that only 9% of those who obtained information over
the Internet paid that much.

Alyse Terhune of Tuxedo, N.Y., recently went shopping for a $40,000
Volvo the old-fashioned way: She visited a dealer. But when she
couldn't find the right color, she turned to Auto By Tel, an on-line
consortium of car dealers that is racking up sales of $500 million a
month. Ms. Terhune listed her requirements and got back three
detailed bids from Volvo dealers. The best offer was $1,000 below the
first quote she received at the dealer showroom.

Some market analysts doubt that the Internet will always be a price
destroyer, however. What's happening today is just Phase One, in
which buyers use the Internet to widen their choices, thereby
"expanding" the supply and reducing the price.

Resources
Jango.Com
www.jango.com

Junglee.Com
www.junglee.com

Preview Travel
www.previewtravel.com

Auto By Tel
www.autobytel.com

But Internet commerce may well be a two-edged sword. It's true that
consumers can sniff out book bargains on-line, but booksellers can
raise prices at an on-line bookstore faster than in a store, where they
have to reprice every copy of a given book. As buyers rush to get
bargains on the Internet, booksellers can change prices quickly. Airlines
have already become highly sophisticated in manipulating seat prices
to fill planes and maximize profit.

Looking ahead, there could be further price-cutting, of course, as price
wars break out on the Net. But as merchants figure out how to cut
transaction costs, eliminating salespeople, middlemen, delivery charges
and processing costs, they may wind up slashing prices but maintaining
or even increasing profit margins. Believers in the "new economy" of
the Information Age ascribe huge importance to this possibility.

Over time, though, the Internet may turn out to be more of a price
leveler than a price cutter. To economic theorists, perfect market
information tends to make prices converge. Mr. Orton of Preview
Travel says the spread of bargain finders may serve to narrow the
wide gap between similar seats on a given flight.

By similar logic, it could trim the customary markup that many
businesses enjoy outside their home markets. "Companies are going
to have to come to terms with losing the international markup," says
Mary Cronin, a Boston College management professor who expects
the Internet to push sellers toward a single global price.

Perhaps. At a point when 80% of Internet users are in foreign
countries, these pressures could build. Today, though, the Internet is
still 80% American, and the problems it poses for merchants is just
more of what is already going on: a 1990s consumer culture in which
beating down price is becoming a hobby, a sport and almost an art
form.

--BERNARD WYSOCKI JR.