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To: DLL who wrote (16)	6/12/1998 8:48:00 PM
From: Gregory D. John	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 638

Don, I will read Luke 4:16-30 over again before I address it. You wonder why some people are so against Christians. There's really only three reasons I can think of: 1. Wronged by Christians; 2. Condemned by Christian morals; and 3. Told that their own beliefs are inferior to Christianity. Realize, of course, that these could apply just as well to probably any group besides Christians. For all the goodness preached by Jesus, Christians have done just as many bad things as any other group of people. I don't mean to be antagonistic, but how many other ethical systems are you familiar with? Buddhism is very appealing. I don't know much about Taoism, but I haven't heard anything bad about it. Nearly every Mormon I've met has been a very decent person. I have a lot of Jewish friends who are wonderful people. One of the most gentle people I've ever met is some sort to New Age cultist who has a guru... of course, I could see him crack at any moment... ha ha... you'd have to know him to appreciate the humour. Why do you think Judeo/Christian ethics are so superior? Now... If you consider it a superlative system, then I'd partially agree; i.e., it is the best, but that there are many "best" ethical systems - it is not unique in being superior, but it is one of the best. If, however, you consider it in the comparative, then I'd disagree; i.e., you think all other systems are inferior. I think that Judeo/Christian ethics is one of the better systems. I, myself, live by morals guided by these ethics. I am not currently looking for a better ethical system, but that is not to say there isn't one that is better. I'm always open to exploring another system. My current system is so much a part of me, that it would take some very concrete justifications to change. It would be hubris on my part to consider my system superior to all other systems. I don't know enough of any other system to claim one even to be one of the best. I think it's a given that the US is founded on Christian morals. I'm not about to argue why the US is a great nation. If might makes right, then the US is, IMHO, currently the greatest nation on Earth. Such was the Roman Empire. Such was the Mongol Empire. Such was the Aztec Empire. I hope the US has the longevity of the British Empire - going strong since 1066 (and before). Here's an interesting question: Do you think women should be allowed employment once they are married? Greg

To: DLL who wrote (16)	6/12/1998 10:41:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 638

Donald, I would like to join in by using another version. tell me what you think Luke 4: 17-19 (Greek Interlinear Interpretation) And was handed to Him a roll of the Prophet Essias, and having opened the roll he found the place where it was having been written: The Spirit of (the) Lord (is)upon me, wherefore he annointed me to evangelize (the) poor, he has sent me to proclaim to captives release and to blind(ones) sight, to send away having been crushed(ones) in release to proclaim a year of (the) Lord acceptable. That and one other version that I read, leads me to believe that Jesus was not talking about poor in $$ wealth but in God wealth,not physical blindness but blindness to the scripture, or ignorance, and the release of the captives is Israel under the law? what do you think? dan

To: DLL who wrote (16)	6/14/1998 4:12:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 638

Hi Donny, and so glad Greg is here, since he cares enough to pursue the conversations about God, obviously the Father is leading him closer to His Son. Since this was the original decision of the Father in Heaven, there is not much humans have been able to do to get around it, and I most certainly would never have made it myself without a great deal of divine interference and total miracle activity. My mind most certainly would never have led me Home. But. All things are possible if we believe. I believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, who said, If I be lifted up, I will draw all men to myself. Then once in the hands of Jesus, the Holy Spirit begins finally to focus our thoughts on God the Father where they originally belonged. It's not easy, but it sure is a miracle, and the miracle realm is open to all who even vaguely hope it is there. Amen? I have faith. If I could be saved, there is hope for Coco the gorilla if someone could sign language the Bible to her.