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To: Phil(bullrider) who wrote (18)	6/14/1998 2:21:00 PM
From: Gerd Schwarz	Respond to of 638

bullrider, My response to your post was incidental, but also serious and personal, Not an opinion, rather a conviction: " For me God and politics are not the 'same'. For a relationship to God the Father is very personal. Politics could be anything, even Religion." I am not familiar with your postings regarding other threads. I hope you understand that I am unable to relate to your many statements, much less answer your questions. I am sorry to have responded to your post. Since I am not an American, I have no opinion about the 'Church-State' controversy. However as a believer in Jesus Christ as my Savior, I have very strong convictions about the "Father in Heaven" and consider the statement of Jesus about his 'Father' the total and complete truth. Gerd

To: Phil(bullrider) who wrote (18)	6/14/1998 5:13:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 638

Bullrider, discussing separation of Chruch and State has as many ramifications as the Big Bang theory complicated by the assumption they now make that the universe which comprises all that there is keeps making room for itself beyond it's borders, which is of course insane to me and my brain shorts out in about 5 seconds. But separation of church and states. Obscurely, and too complex for me to begin to explain here, the matter of union of church and state has never been more hideously expressed than in the trial of the order of monks satan's crowd has totally adopted as their own and call the "Templars." I never truly understood Paul's "wickedness in high places" until the nearly 3 years I spent obsessing in 1100-1340 history. Truly, it is monstrous, and unspeakably frightening that it surfaced again in Hitler and Stalin, and will surface again on a global scale. The whole Templar thing is about the power of church and state in the hands of satan. Why the idea to round them up came into being, how they were rounded up, how this rounding up was forced upon 5 Christian kingdoms, how they were imprisoned, how they were tortured to death for confessions for almost 7 years, and then how the existing FBI/media of that day was able to take 200 years of deeds of these men out of history forever and bury it all in the Vatican, where much of it still sits in vaults. The Temple Knight experience simply goes off the Riechter scale, and the mind can barely absorb the enormous evil behind it, and the collusion of the known Western civilizations that it entailed. That was the arch classic dark side of the Church/state marraige. The only vaguely decent experiment I can think of among humans out of the history books was Isreal under Moses. Isreal under successive kings is for the most part the study of power, depravity and destruction. (After David, the one and only truly good king, who almost was totally lost himself pursuing his own lusts ONLY after popping the crown on his head.) Interesting question, and the most interesting is why is it impossible to have humans who love God in charge of the country, and the morales, and the money and how it is spent? It would seem like it should be the easiest thing on the earth and yet it has proven to be the most impossible. The problem is just human nature.. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Is there any person you can think of right now you can absolutely trust to get into the white house and not become some kind of political deviate like the rest? Is it possible? Just MHO, based on the fact that apparently it is not and has never happened, except maybe for Ghandi in India, but look at India under Ghandi. No wars, maybe, but it was still corpses and skeletons on every street and in every gutter. A horrible place, and no one can get around that. Probably still is, just that the workers now outnumber the diseased beggars. But yes, we will have an Anti-Christ and we will have to have a world crash before such a nonsense is possible, that's why the growing global thing gets my keen attention. C-Span has been having very spooky discussion every Sunday now for awhile about what other governments are saying about their problems and the warning they are giving that no one listens to. That is a reality hard to ignore, downer or not. Those in the path of the tornado cloud, I doubt, turn to the one shouting that a tornado is coming and scream, "Oh, shut up! I'm sick of your negative comments on the weather." But there is a parallel when anyone mentions other things that appear to be coming, so it's hard to even discuss the downside of a tornado coming with some people.