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To: Walter High who wrote (5810)6/12/1998 2:58:00 PM
From: William T. Katz  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
As a frequent short of AMZN, I must say I have a great deal of respect for Bezos and managment at Amazon. They have grown a great business and, while keeping focus, are slowly and deliberately growing their marketplace by expanding into music and later videos. Bezos et al. are also very very good at the stock market game. They timed the opening of the music store to perfection ... really well done, just when the short squeeze might be fading, then bam!

I disagree with some of the shorts thinking that Amazon, as a company, will implode. I do think the stock price is pretty absurd at this point, having built in many great things already. But I can also see the long argument that this is the new Walmart on the web. I made a deal with a friend of mine that he could not buy any more things from Amazon if I did him a certain favor. Within 2 months he broke the deal because he said barnesandnoble.com "sucks".

At this point, I'm just confused. I think my best bet, at this point, is to reflect on my stock losses and gains, reduce the total amount I have in this market, pay off all my debts, and hold mostly cash until I see some really really ironclad air-tight smokingly obvious deal [maybe during a major crash day]. The only thing I can think after the last two weeks is maybe I'm better off leaving stock investing to the pros and just concentrate on long-term speculative plays with a small % of my disposable income.

-Bill



To: Walter High who wrote (5810)6/12/1998 3:02:00 PM
From: Winter  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 164684
 
Walter,

I agree that the founders are doing the best they can and I would not fault them for that. However I disagree that the result will be that they will end up meeting their goal to "dominate the market".

If AMZN is going to be a player they have to get big fast - they are doing this very well. The question is, is it enough and will they run out of money (or the market's patience) first.

So I don't fault the founders however I do fault the markets analysts and pundits that see AMZN's non-stop growth rosy scenario as if its a done deal. There are lot of (negative) possibilities that just aren't factored into the stock price.



To: Walter High who wrote (5810)6/12/1998 3:17:00 PM
From: Mark Myword  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 164684
 
>>> So, if this is the plan and it works (i.e., AMZN wins the battle, becomes profitable, and validates its stock price eventually), are the founders no longer morally bankrupt as has been suggested on this thread? Is my scenario above totally without merit? <<<
Walter - you certainly have done a good job of painting the picture in a way that makes it appear that a bunch of good people are simply trying hard to succeed as Internet pioneers. And I'm sure there is a certain element of truth to that.
However , another side to the story is that 1) there is a lack of honesty in the information released about the company 2) clearly , the goal is to hype the concept , in collusion with the IB types who need to cash out , or get more business in the future 3) their CFO insulted the intelligence of the financial community by suggesting that all their marketing expenditures should be considered capitalizable , and
4) you can see how this will most likely end up - lots of "investors" sucked into a scheme that separates them from their money, while the insider crowd gets loaded. If the thing does become a viable , long-term business , they get filthy rich , and the investors do O.K.
If it disappears , they still get rich , and the investors get wiped out.
I wouldn't want to have my retirement money in a fund that had Amazon in its portfolio , thank you very much.
It boils down to heads we both win (investors and insiders) , tails you lose and I still win. And heads only comes up about 10% of the time. Follow this for a while , and see how it plays out. Regards.



To: Walter High who wrote (5810)6/12/1998 3:25:00 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 164684
 
Walter, perhaps we are unfair to Bezos sometimes and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he did get into this because he had an idea and wanted to build something lasting. However, I think there were many uncertainties in his plan as it was a whole new way of selling. I doubt he had any real basis for determining the costs of doing business in this "new" way or the potential. I believe that the costs, especially marketing costs, are much greater than anticipated as is the competitive threat (which is why the marketing costs can't come down enough to make it profitable). They are also changing their model in that they are building more distribution infrastructure and, most importantly, holding more inventory. Both of these things take capital. It is good that they can adjust as they learn the developing dynamics of "e-tailing", but it is important to realize that these adjustments are an effort to find the model that works. IMO, they have not found it.

Now, as for ethics, consider this. Earlier this year, when Kleiner Perkins was actively distributing shares to their partnership investors (many big Silicon Valley names, BTW), John Doerr (KP's top dog) was trotting around to conferences and such talking up the wonderful potential of the Amazon "franchise" or "brand" and spouting the same long list of totally unquantifiable, subjective, unprovable reasons why Amazon will rule the "e-tailing" world that all the analysts spout now. It all sounded great, but there is still no way to demonstrate how Amazon will accomplish any of its grand dreams. But, most importantly, while he was saying all these things, he was passing out the stock certificates so that Scott McNealy, Andy Grove and a long list of other Silly Valley insiders could sell.

You write:
The only possible way to win this battle is to drive the competition out and be the last one standing, even if one ends up considerably bloodied.

Consider what you are saying here - that there are going to be big losers in the battle for the e-tail dollar - someone win win, but at what cost - and, others will go down in flames. Is this the kind of high risk commercial battlefield where you want to pay such a high price to bet on one competitor as if they had already won?

The goal is to dominate the market, become profitable, and win big for the investors.

I'm sure that is or was the goal, but if the first two can't be achieved - something that is far, far from assured - they will do their best to make sure the early investors get to walk away from the table with their winnings.

The most important factor here is to keep the competition unaware of the next move. By constantly surprising the competitors and making unexpected moves, advantage is gained.

Again, I agree, but these tactics also work on Wall Street. Keep that PR machine working to keep investors on their toes, especially the bears.

Regards,
Bob



To: Walter High who wrote (5810)6/12/1998 6:38:00 PM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Respond to of 164684
 
I would like to return to a different aspect of this discussion since none of us really knows
where the stock price is going anyway. My interest is in the vilification that is constantly
heaped upon the founders of Amazon by several people on this thread.


Walter,

It is my opinion that the founders of Amazon do not have any intentions of having a profitable company. They nothing about retailing and all the dream stories about billions in sales are rediculous.


The founders developed a very careful business plan which is closely guarded. The most
important factor here is to keep the competition unaware of the next move. By constantly
surprising the competitors and making unexpected moves, advantage is gained. Financing
at exorbitant rates may be necessary, but the other alternative is to lose the battle.


There is no apparent business plan much less kept secret. No goals or objectives. No moves that are surprising to any competitor. Please tell me what AMZN has done that surprised anyone.


The goal is to dominate the market, become profitable, and win big for the investors. It
is understood that it may take five to ten years to do so, but the payoff is worth it.
Meanwhile, you keep your mouth shut, endure the criticism, and hope you win.


They are definitly suffering;-) The four top management people of AMZN have sold an excess of $5 million each worth of stock from last fall through this spring. I would think they would only sell enough to live in a moderate life style if their intentions were to make their investors wealthy. It appears their intentions were to make themselfs wealthy and they have succeeded.

We have a group of people that are basically investment bankers. They know how the street works and how to drive a stock price. I have no idea how to run a retail operation. Their PR is excellent but their marketing knowledge leaves a lot to be desired. There will be a lot of people left holding the bag when AMZN's stock goes to 0 as the founders live comfortably on the mllions they made from the investing community. AMZN is not rocket science. It is no different than Sears mail order of the late 1800 and early 1900. It is electronic but that is due to new technology not developed by AMZN. It simply is an electronic catalogue with the same shipping as any company.

Finally, these people are smart enough to know if they can turn a profit at least by this point in time. I am very certain they know they cannot but why not keep up the sharade (sp)?

Glenn



To: Walter High who wrote (5810)6/13/1998 9:50:00 AM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Respond to of 164684
 
In addition, the Company reserves the right in its sole discretion to purchase or make offers for any Original Notes that remain outstanding subsequent to the Expiration Date or, as set forth below under "-- Conditions of the Exchange Offer," to terminate the Exchange Offer and, to the extent permitted by applicable law, purchase Original Notes in the open market, in privately negotiated transactions or otherwise. The terms of any such purchases or offers could differ from the terms of the Exchange Offer.

By tendering, each Holder will represent to the Company (on its own behalf and on behalf of any beneficial owner of any Original Note subject to the Letter of Transmittal) that, among other things, (i) the Exchange Notes acquired pursuant to the Exchange Offer are being obtained in the ordinary course of business of the person receiving such Exchange Notes, (ii) neither the Holder nor any such other person is participating in or intends to participate in a distribution of such Exchange Notes, (iii) neither the Holder nor any such other person has an arrangement or understanding with any person to participate in the distribution of such Exchange Notes, and (iv) neither the Holder nor any such other person is an Affiliate of the Company.

In all cases, issuance of Exchange Notes that are accepted for exchange pursuant to the Exchange Offer will be made only after timely receipt by the Exchange Agent of certificates for such Original Notes or a timely Book-Entry Confirmation of such Original Notes into the Exchange Agent's account at the Book-Entry Transfer Facility, a properly completed duly executed Letter of Transmittal and all other required documents. If any tendered Original Notes are not accepted for any reason set forth in the terms and conditions of the Exchange Offer or if Original Notes are submitted for a greater principal amount than the Holder desires to exchange, such unaccepted or nonexchanged Original Notes will be returned without expense to the tendering Holder thereof (or, in the case of Original Notes tendered by book-entry transfer into the Exchange Agent's account at the Book-Entry Transfer Facility pursuant to the book-entry transfer procedures described below, such nonexchanged Original Notes will be credited to an account maintained with such Book-Entry Transfer Facility) as promptly as practicable after the expiration or termination of the Exchange Offer.

BOOK-ENTRY TRANSFER

The Exchange Agent will make a request to establish an account with respect to the Original Notes at the Book-Entry Transfer Facility for purposes of the Exchange Offer within two business days after the date of this Prospectus, and any financial institution that is a participant in the Book-Entry Transfer Facility's systems may make book-entry delivery of Original Notes by causing the Book-Entry Transfer Facility to transfer such Original Notes into the Exchange Agent's account at the Book-Entry Transfer Facility in accordance with such Book-Entry Transfer Facility's procedures for transfer. However, although delivery of Original Notes may be effected through book-entry transfer at the Book-Entry Transfer Facility, the Letter of Transmittal or facsimile thereof, with any required signature guarantees and any other required documents, must, in any case, be transmitted to and received by the Exchange Agent at the address set forth below under "-- Exchange Agent" on or prior to the Expiration Date or the guaranteed delivery procedures described below must be complied with.

GUARANTEED DELIVERY PROCEDURES

Holders who wish to tender their Original Notes and (i) whose Original Notes are not immediately available or (ii) who cannot deliver their Original Notes, the Letter of Transmittal or any other required documents to the Exchange Agent prior to the Expiration Date, may effect a tender if

(a) the tender is made through an a member firm of a registered
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Dealers, Inc., a commercial bank or trust company having an office or
correspondent in the United States or an "eligible Guarantor Institution"
within the meaning of Rule 17Ad-15 under the Exchange Act (an "Eligible
Institution");

(b) prior to the Expiration Date, the Exchange Agent receives from
such Eligible Institution a properly completed and duly executed Notice of
Guaranteed Delivery (by facsimile transmission, mail or hand delivery)
setting forth the name and address of the Holder, the certificate number(s)
of such Original Notes and the principal amount of Original Notes tendered
stating that the tender is being made

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thereby and guaranteeing that, within five New York Stock Exchange trading
days after the Expiration Date, the Letter of Transmittal (or facsimile
thereof) together with the certificate(s) representing the Original Notes
and any other documents required by the Letter of Transmittal will be
deposited by the Eligible Institution with the Exchange Agent; and

(c) such properly completed and executed Letter of Transmittal (or
facsimile thereof), as well as the certificate(s) representing all tendered
Original Notes in proper form for transfer and other documents required by
the Letter of Transmittal are received by the Exchange Agent within five
New York Stock Exchange trading days after the Expiration Date.

Upon request to the Exchange Agent, a Notice of Guaranteed Delivery will be sent to Holders who wish to tender their Original Notes according to the guaranteed delivery procedures set forth above.

WITHDRAWAL OF TENDERS

Except as otherwise provided herein, tenders of Original Notes may be withdrawn at any time prior to 5:00 p.m., New York City time, on the Expiration Date.

To withdraw a tender of Original Notes in the Exchange Offer, a written or facsimile transmission notice of withdrawal must be received by the Exchange Agent at its address set forth herein prior to 5:00 p.m., New York City time, on the Expiration Date. Any such notice of withdrawal must (i) specify the name of the person having deposited the Original Notes to be withdrawn (the "Depositor"), (ii) identify the Original Notes to be withdrawn (including the certificate number), (iii) be signed by the Holder in the same manner as the original signature on the Letter of Transmittal by which such Original Notes were tendered (including any required signature guarantees) or be accompanied by documents of transfer sufficient to have the Trustee with respect to the Original Notes register the transfer of such Original Notes in the name of the person withdrawing the tender, and (iv) specify the name in which any such Original Notes are to be registered, if different from that of the Depositor. All questions as to the validity, form and eligibility (including time of receipt) of such notices will be determined by the Company, whose determination shall be final and binding on all parties. Any Original Notes so withdrawn will be deemed not to have been validly tendered for purposes of the Exchange Offer and no Exchange Notes will be issued with respect thereto unless the Original Notes so withdrawn are validly retendered. Any Original Notes which have been tendered but which are not accepted for payment will be returned to the Holder thereof without cost to such Holder as soon as practicable after withdrawal, rejection of tender or termination of the Exchange Offer. Properly withdrawn Original Notes may be retendered by following one of the procedures described above under "-- Procedures for Tendering" at any time prior to the Expiration Date.

ACCEPTANCE OF ORIGINAL NOTES FOR EXCHANGE; DELIVERY OF EXCHANGE NOTES

Upon satisfaction or waiver of all of the conditions to the Exchange Offer, the Company will accept, promptly after the Expiration Date, all Original Notes properly tendered and will issue the Exchange Notes promptly after acceptance of the Original Notes. See "-- Conditions of the Exchange Offer." For purposes of the Exchange Offer, the Company shall be deemed to have accepted properly tendered Original Notes for exchange when, as and if the Company has given oral or written notice thereof (oral notice being promptly confirmed in writing) to the Exchange Agent.

CONDITIONS OF THE EXCHANGE OFFER

Notwithstanding any other term of the Exchange Offer, the Company shall not be required to accept for exchange, or exchange Exchange Notes for, any Original Notes, and may terminate the Exchange Offer as provided herein before the acceptance of such Original Notes if, in the sole judgment of the Company, the Exchange Offer would violate any law, statute, rule or regulation or an interpretation thereof of the Staff of the Commission. If the Company determines in its sole discretion that this condition is not satisfied, the Company may (i) refuse to accept any Original Notes and return all tendered Original Notes to the tendering Holders, (ii) extend the Exchange Offer and retain all Original Notes tendered prior to the Expiration Date, subject, however, to the rights of Holders to withdraw such Original Notes (see "-- Withdrawal of Tenders") or

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(iii) waive such unsatisfied conditions with respect to the Exchange Offer and accept all validly tendered Original Notes which have not been withdrawn. If such waiver constitutes a material change to the Exchange Offer, the Company will promptly disclose such waiver by means of a prospectus supplement that will be distributed to the registered Holders, and the Company will extend the Exchange Offer for a period of five to ten business days, depending upon the significance of the waiver and the manner of disclosure to the registered Holders, if the Exchange Offer would otherwise expire during such five-to-ten-business-day period.

EXCHANGE AGENT

The Bank of New York has been appointed as Exchange Agent for the Exchange Offer. Questions and requests for assistance, requests for additional copies of this Prospectus or of the Letter of Transmittal and requests of or Notices of Guaranteed Delivery should be directed to the Exchange Agent addressed as follows:

BY REGISTERED OR CERTIFIED MAIL, BY OVERNIGHT COURIER OR BY HAND:

The Bank of New York
Reorganization Section
101 Barclay Street, Floor 7 East
New York, NY 10286
Attention:

or

BY FACSIMILE:

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Attention:
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In addition, Letters of Transmittal and any other required documentation should be sent to the Exchange Agent at the address set forth above, except where facsimile transmission is specifically authorized (e.g., withdrawals and Notices of Guaranteed Delivery). DELIVERY OF THE LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL TO AN ADDRESS OTHER THAN AS SET FORTH ABOVE OR TRANSMISSION VIA FACSIMILE OTHER THAN AS SET FORTH ABOVE WILL NOT CONSTITUTE VALID DELIVERY.

FEES AND EXPENSES

The expenses of soliciting tenders will be paid by the Company. The principal solicitation is being made by mail; however, additional solicitation may be made by telecopy, telephone or in person by officers and regular employees of the Company and its affiliates.

The Company has not retained any dealer-manager in connection with the Exchange Offer and will not make any payments to brokers, dealers or others soliciting acceptance of the Exchange Offer. The Company, however, will pay the Exchange Agent reasonable and customary fees for its services and will reimburse its reasonable out-of-pocket expenses in connection therewith.

The Company will pay all transfer taxes, if any, applicable to the exchange of the Original Notes pursuant to the Exchange Offer. If, however, a transfer tax is imposed for any reason other than the exchange of the Original Notes pursuant to the Exchange Offer, then the amount of any such transfer taxes (whether imposed on the registered holder or any other persons) will be payable by the tendering Holder. If satisfactory evidence of payment of such taxes or exemption therefrom is not submitted with the Letter of Transmittal, the amount of such transfer taxes will be billed directly to the tendering Holder.

CONSEQUENCES OF FAILURE TO EXCHANGE

Original Notes that are not exchanged for Exchange Notes pursuant to the Exchange Offer will remain restricted securities within the meaning of Rule 144 of the Securities Act. Accordingly, such Original Notes may be resold only (i) to the Company or any subsidiary thereof, (ii) so long as the Original Notes are eligible

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for resale pursuant to Rule 144A, to a person whom the seller reasonably believes is a "qualified institutional buyer" within the meaning of Rule 144A under the Securities Act, purchasing for its own account or for the account of a "qualified institutional buyer" to whom notice is given that the resale, pledge or other transfer is being made in reliance on Rule 144A, (iii) outside the United States to non-U.S. persons in an offshore transaction in compliance with Rule 904 under the Securities Act, (iv) pursuant to an exemption from registration in accordance with Rule 144 (if available), (v) to an institutional "accredited investor" (within the meaning of Rule 501(a)(1), (2), (3) or (7) of the Securities Act) that, prior to such transfer, furnishes to the Trustee a signed letter containing certain representations and agreements relating to the registration of transfer of the Original Notes and, if such transfer is in respect of a principal amount of Original Notes at the time of transfer of less than $100,000, an opinion of counsel acceptable to the Company that such transfer is in compliance with the Securities Act, and (vi) pursuant to an effective registration statement under the Securities Act, in each case in accordance with any applicable securities laws of any state of the United States and subject to certain requirements of the Trustee being met. The liquidity of the Original Notes could be adversely affected by the Exchange Offer. See "Risk Factors -- Consequences of Failure to Exchange." Following the consummation of the Exchange Offer, holders of the Original Notes will have no further registration rights under the Registration Rights Agreement (other than certain registration rights granted to Morgan Stanley).

RESALES OF THE EXCHANGE NOTES

Based on an interpretation by the Staff of the Commission set forth in certain no-action letters issued to third parties, the Company believes that the Exchange Notes or interests therein issued pursuant to the Exchange Offer in exchange for Original Notes or interests therein may be offered for resale, resold and otherwise transferred by a Holder thereof (other than (i) a broker-dealer who purchases such Exchange Notes directly from the Company to resell pursuant to Rule 144A or any other available exemption under the Securities Act or (ii) a person that is an Affiliate of the Company) without compliance with the registration and prospectus delivery requirements of the Securities Act, provided that the Holder is acquiring the Exchange Notes in the ordinary course of its business and not participating, and had no arrangement or understanding with any person to participate, in the distribution of Exchange Notes. Each broker-dealer that receives the Exchange Notes for its own account in exchange for the Original Notes must represent that the Original Notes tendered in the Exchange Offer were acquired by such broker-dealer as a result of market-making activities or other trading activities and must acknowledge that it will deliver a prospectus meeting the requirements of the Securities Act in connection with any resale of such Exchange Notes. By so acknowledging and by delivering a prospectus, a broker-dealer will not be deemed to admit that it is an "underwriter" within the meaning of the Securities Act. This Prospectus, as it may be amended or supplemented from time or time, may be used by a broker-dealer in connection with resales of Exchange Notes received in exchange for Original Notes where such Original Notes were acquired by such broker-dealer as a result of market-making activities or other trading activities. The Company intends to make this Prospectus (as it may be amended or supplemented) available to any broker-dealer for use in connection with any such resale for a period of 180 days after the last Exchange Date. See "Plan of Distribution."

ACCOUNTING TREATMENT

For accounting purposes, the Company will recognize no gain or loss as a result of the Exchange Offer. The Exchange Notes will be recorded at the same carrying value as the Original Notes, as reflected in the Company's accounting records on the date of the exchange. The expenses of the Exchange Offer will be amortized over the remaining term of the Notes.

DESCRIPTION OF THE EXCHANGE NOTES

The Exchange Notes are to be issued under the Indenture. A copy of the Indenture has been filed as an exhibit to the Registration Statement of which this Prospectus is a part. The following summary of certain provisions of the Indenture does not purport to be complete and is subject to, and is qualified in its entirety by reference to, all the provisions of the Indenture, including the definitions of certain terms therein, and those

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terms made a part thereof by reference to the Trust Indenture Act of 1939, as amended. Whenever particular defined terms of the Indenture not otherwise defined herein are referred to, such defined terms are incorporated herein by reference. For definitions of certain capitalized terms used in the following summary, see "-- Certain Definitions."

GENERAL

The Notes are senior unsecured obligations of the Company, limited to $530.0 million aggregate principal amount at maturity, and will mature on May 1, 2008. Although for federal income tax purposes a significant amount of original issue discount, taxable as ordinary income, will be recognized by a Holder as such discount accrues from the issue date of the Notes, no interest will be payable on the Notes prior to November 1, 2003. Interest on the Notes will accrue at the rate shown on the front cover of this Prospectus beginning May 1, 2003 or from the most recent Interest Payment Date to which interest has been paid or provided for, payable semiannually (to Holders of record at the close of business on the April 15 or October 15 immediately preceding the Interest Payment Date) on May 1 and November 1 of each year, commencing November 1, 2003. Interest will be computed on the basis of a 360-day year of twelve 30-day months.

Principal of, premium, if any, and interest on the Notes will be payable, and the Notes may be exchanged or transferred, at the office or agency of the Company in the Borough of Manhattan, the City of New York (which initially will be the corporate trust office of the Trustee at 101 Barclay Street, New York, New York 10286); provided that, at the option of the Company, payment of interest may be made by check mailed to the Holders at their addresses as they appear in the Security Register.

OPTIONAL REDEMPTION

The Notes will be redeemable, at the Company's option, in whole or in part, at any time or from time to time, on or after May 1, 2003 and prior to maturity, upon not less than 30 nor more than 60 days' prior notice mailed by first-class mail to each Holder's last address as it appears in the Security Register, at the Redemption Prices (expressed in percentages of principal amount at maturity) set forth below, plus accrued and unpaid interest, if any, to the Redemption Date (subject to the right of Holders of record on the relevant Regular Record Date that is prior to the Redemption Date to receive interest due on an Interest Payment Date), if redeemed during the 12-month period commencing May 1 of the years set forth below:

YEAR REDEMPTION PRICE

2003 105.000%
2004 103.333
2005 101.667
2006 and thereafter 100.000

In addition, at any time prior to May 1, 2001, the Company may redeem up to 35% of the aggregate principal amount at maturity of the Notes with the Net Cash Proceeds of one or more sales of Capital Stock of the Company (other than Disqualified Stock), at any time as a whole or from time to time in part, at a Redemption Price (expressed as a percentage of Accreted Value on the Redemption Date) of 110%; provided that at least 65% of the aggregate principal amount at maturity of the Notes originally issued on the Closing Date remains outstanding after each such redemption and notice of any such redemption is mailed within 60 days after the related sale of Capital Stock.

At any time prior to May 1, 2003, the Company may redeem all, but not less than all, of the Notes at a Redemption Price equal to the sum of (i) the Accreted Value on the Redemption Date, plus (ii) accrued and unpaid interest, if any, to the Redemption Date (subject to the right of Holders of record on the relevant Regular Record Date that is prior to the Redemption Date to receive interest due on an Interest Payment Date), plus (iii) the Applicable Premium.

"Applicable Premium" means, with respect to a Note at any Redemption Date, the greater of (i) 1.0% of the Accreted Value of such Note on such Redemption Date and (ii) the excess of (A) the present value at such Redemption Date of the redemption price of such Note on May 1, 2003 (such redemption price being