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To: Paul Engel who wrote (27387)	6/14/1998 1:36:00 PM
From: Steve Porter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 33344

Paul, Don't even go anywhere near telling me to brush up on the SERVER industry as you put. You think you are god's gift to computing? I work with servers all day and every day. Redudant power supplies are more a quality of the case, rather than the internal electronics. I believe I said a workgroup server. I hate to tell you (obviously you are living in an ivory tower) that most small/mid sized corporate servers don't have hot swappable anything, or redundant anything. Wake up I sell and work with these machines EVERYDAY! What most people and corporations want for a workgroup server is a SCSI subsystem and ECC ram. If you have that they figure it's a server. Hot swappable disks can easily be achieved simply by using a case designed for it and a scsi-card which support it. For I buy a $2,000 alpha and a $450-$500 case and a $300 adaptec card and I have a server by your definition (excluding hot swap PCI, which BTW I have NEVER seen in use). RAID (pick a level, 1, 4 or 5) is again a part of the scsi card and most decent scsi cards can do it now-a-days. Maybe you are the one who needs to brush up on the computing industry. It's not like the days when you were making 8088's Paul. A lot of what you think is a big deal is cheap as hell right now. Steve