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To: jawd who wrote (5960)6/14/1998 1:06:00 AM
From: slipnsip  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
You (and Victor) are looking at AMZN as a traditional company. I think you are failing to take into account that we are witnessing the birth of a new era where the internet is changing all the rules.

You may be right, but the bottom line is a company has to be profitable to continue as a going concern. They have to have positive cash flow until they can produce a profit. As soon as they run out of financing option for this new era, they can file chapter 13 and start all over again with someone elses money, but the original inestors will be SOL.. Cash burn with only on financing option left. Issue stock. You can't issue stock forever...

It always cracks me up when I talk to someone who is going to buy a stock trading at 20 cents that has recently filed chap 13, saying "how low can it go?" After all the company is still in business... HEHE.



To: jawd who wrote (5960)6/14/1998 5:57:00 AM
From: Skeeter Bug  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
jawd, even if the net were changing the rules, nobody knows what they are. why? they are new. so, why spend a lot of money betting on a company whose rules you don't understand as though it is a sure thing?

it makes no sense. it is irrational. you discount uncertainty. amzn doesn't have bricks and mortar (sp?). so what? their shipping costs are up to 20% of their product. is that substantial? it may be a higher % than bricks and mortar. hey, maybe i could run a bricks and mortar book store and sell at amzn prices and lose money just like amzn. wouldn't that be special. i'd bet NOBODY has done this kind of analysis. why? why do it. bulls in a bull market don't need facts. just tell them what they want to hear and make money off them. however, i bet the market changes from greed (current) to fear in 0-6 months.

if they steal massive market share from traditional outlets (if, if, if, if - it is no sure thing) then do you expect those currently profitable outlets to sit idle and not change their business plan? lower prices?

i think the longs are being incredibly irresponsible with their money. amzn is not even close to the best place to put long money in this market.

i also think the longs have no idea what the value of the net is longer term. it is information transparency - to the customer. billions of dollars are made by business b/c of consumer ignorance. the net reduces this ignorance due to the free flow of information and also those billions in profits. this is the power of the net. eventually wall sweet will figure this. it may be a long time. i'm used to being light years ahead of wall sweet. they are paid to not think and tow the party line. we know the current party line. it will change, however. when it does i plan to be there. not with a short. i will never underestimate the irresponsibility of people, especially with opm.

you may not believe me now. but you will...



To: jawd who wrote (5960)6/14/1998 9:36:00 AM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 

You (and Victor) are looking at AMZN as a traditional company. I think you are failing
to take into account that we are witnessing the birth of a new era where the internet is
changing all the rules.


Jawd,

May I have more dteail on this? I am a "traditional" retailer and see no changed rules at all. There still seems to be the need for merchandise, advertising, administration, operation, etc. and of course, treating the customer right. What is different?

Glenn



To: jawd who wrote (5960)6/14/1998 11:45:00 PM
From: Victor Lazlo  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
Sorry jawd. The internet will not change math. A loss is a loss.