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To: Paul Engel who wrote (27398)6/14/1998 6:56:00 AM
From: Craig Freeman  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 33344
 
Trivia Question: How much have CPU prices fallen during the past 13 months?

Cyrix 6x86MX/PR233: was $320, now $51 = -84%
AMD K6/233: was $415, now $68 = -84%
Intel MMX/233: was $555, now $97 = -83%
Intel PII/266: was $725, now $190 = -74%
Intel PII/300: was $1,930, now $237 = -88%

Craig

May, 1997 prices are from cpu-central.com
Current prices are from pricewatch.com



To: Paul Engel who wrote (27398)6/14/1998 12:49:00 PM
From: Scumbria  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 33344
 
RE:"It is a split transaction processor bus AND it separates the L2 cache bus from the system bus"

Paul,

On the personal side:
You are sounding a lttle frustrated. Perhaps it is the lost INTC net worth due to MediaGX. You may want to find a way to deal with this because it is probably going to get much worse over the next 12 months.

On the technical side:
Since Intel, AMD and IDT are all moving to integrated L2 architectures, a separate L2 bus seems like a pointless and expensive "feature." How many pins are wasted on the L2 bus? I'm surprised you would brag about this.

Why would I want to have a split transaction bus in a single processor system? One of the many, many defects of the x86 architecture is a lack of registers. Operands are kept in memory and the CPU core stalls immediately upon a load miss. Having a second non-stalled instruction does little for performance. In addition, the presence of an onboard L2 makes the memory bus behavior mostly irrelevant (again, in a single processor system.)

Repeating the point I tried to make earlier, there is no empirical evidence that slot 1 processors are as fast as socket 7 processors.

BTW: At one point I thought Merced was going to be a threat to Intel's competitors during this millenium. Is Merced turning into a huge boondoggle, or am I imagining things?

RE:"Perhaps that isn't apparent to you, but then again, you are welded into your Cyrix investment and need to constantly blame somebody other than Cyrix for Cyrix's miserable performance."

Actually I recently abandoned my long held investment in Cyrix. Until they start shipping a processor with top notch floating point, integrated L2, and competitive megahertz I don't see the stock moving. However, I do see the MediaGX as a great facilitator for my INTC puts.

Scumbria