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To: RocketMan who wrote (13282)	6/15/1998 7:08:00 PM
From: Greg Cassinerio	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50264

Put me down on the list also!

To: RocketMan who wrote (13282)	6/15/1998 7:34:00 PM
From: Dolfan	Respond to of 50264

Sorry if this has been posted here. Definitely a must read article. FOLKS DO NOT FORGET WE ARE NOW A GLOBAL IP TELEPHONY TELEPHONE CARRIER WITH ISP AND CENTRAL OFFICE OWNERSHIP! VERY UNDERVALUED! IP Telephony Market Set To Soar - F&S Report IP Telephony Market Set To Soar - F&S Report 06/15/98 MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A., 1998 JUN 15 (NB) -- By Sylvia Dennis, Newsbytes. A report out today from Frost & Sullivan (F&) suggests that the US voice telecommunications carriers' apparent complacency in the face of IP (Internet Protocol) telephony services may be misplaced. F&S' latest report from its ongoing "World Markets for IP Telephony Equipment and Services" program, suggests that the recent announcements of services from the likes of Bell Atlantic and Sprint "hint at the end of the pure voice network paradigm." The information technology (IT) research firm notes that service providers in the US, and eventually throughout the world, are furiously gearing up for voice and data convergence on their networks. F&S' report also notes that the introduction of IP gateways in 1996 will help fuel their desire for content bandwidth. The bottom line to this, the company says, is that the forecasted compound annual growth rate (CARG) in the market is 132 percent. By the end of 1997, the company notes, IP telephony traffic reached 6.3 million minutes per month. Forecasts, the company says, predict colossal growth for this market in the years to come. According to F&S, since 1997, the definition of a gateway has shifted from "standalone box" to "integrated functionality." Inotherwords, the research firm says, what used to be seen as a distinct network element is now a module for existing networking equipment. F&S says that, during 1997, the market also saw the introduction of commercial telephone-to-telephone services using IP telephony gateways. A market once considered just for start-up companies, it notes, "is quickly becoming a battle ground for companies such as Ascend, Cisco, Lucent, and Nortel." F&S' report notes that the introduction of commercial telephone-to- telephone services using IP gateways also came in 1997. The successful service providers, it says, will be those with comprehensive interconnection partnerships. As readers might expect, F&S says that IDT, Delta Three, and OzEmail Interline led the services market last year. Most of the commercial activity in 1997, the firm says, was generated by next generation telecommunication carriers, One interesting conclusion of the study is that the company notes that ISPs are being very slow to embrace the technology, even though other elements of the industry have been swift to fill the gap left. F&S says that companies such as VocalTec, Micom, Vienna Systems, and Clarent led the equipment market for 1997. This situation, the company predicts, will likely change in 1998 as new players enter the market, but also as new forms of gateways are introduced. Vendors with well developed sales channels and existing products, F&S says, are taking the IP telephony market by storm, placing enormous competition on smaller market players.

To: RocketMan who wrote (13282)	6/15/1998 7:49:00 PM
From: Just-a-thought	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50264

Evening and 'Welcome!' you 'NEWBIES!'....send this to you're printer! There are two ways to short a BB stock...one Illegal... the other.....unethical... 1st the illegal one: (MM's can't legally short under 5 bucks) Lets say you go to the super market a buy 'apples'.... you pay for them....then bring them home...easy... Then other people go to the same market and do the same thing... Pretty soon they run out of apples....the store calls their normal supplier of apples and finds out...they have none either.. The store then goes across town or out of state for their new supply of apples....but the price goes way up!!.... The next time you by apples you might pay twice as much! All because ...you and others brought your apples home with you. When you buy a penny stock and don't take posession of your shares.....guess what....they can (illegally) sell the same shares to someone else!!!.. (cause you didn't bring your apples home).....How many times have we been in a penny position, watching buying all day, and the price barely moves.... Not all MM's do this....but enough do, to make our trading that much more difficult......you might think you have a 'float covered' and yet the price stays the same... Then you can have MM's trading amongst themselves just to 'inch' the price down.....ever see 5 or 10 buys....and the price goes down?......another one of their tricks is to delay a 'buy' to make it look like a sell!..... You already have my position on stop loss trades. They're just trying to induce a panic-selloff so they can pick up some 'cheap shares'....if you fall for it 'you lose'.... then you try to buy back in....get caught in a runup.... and end up on the backside of another trade....(greed).... Theirs and 'Ours'.... Now the unethical one: (i'm not saying 'New To Area'.... is doing this. I'm just using his post to illustrate) Another way to drive the price down is to 'construct posts that will create 'Fear, Uncertanity & Panic''.... If enough people create enough negative posts they can drive the 'Ask' down......and or prevent 'new investors from buying'!. Here is NTA's post from the "HOT STOCKS???" group... >>>>>>> Subj: ICVI By: NewToArea (YAHOO) Date: Feb 7 1998 4:47 P.M PST Reply To: Msg. 2824 by auggieee Some people have already lost almost 50% of their investment. Nothing but rumors. The pending news can't be that good. Make sure you read posts #149 thru #161 on the ICVI thread. If you like what you read then buy it. I wouldn't. <<<<<<<<<< If he read the whole thread like ---'I have repeatedly asked'--- He would of realized, that none of us here have any 'SOLID'... INFO, 'WERE STILL WAITING'...... NTA goes off thread to 'HOT STOCKS???' and.... (again IMO, at the time)....tries to get 'Future Investors' to read the posts 'HE' wants them to read.... Because of the total lack of news I have asked "NEWBIES" to read everything!!....Then make their decision!.... My reason for attacking NTA was to 'nip something in the bud', or at least try to bring it back into the thread.... "Where it belongs" Just-An-Elongated-Thought...more to come...re-read this 1st Lt.jat($have-tail) .