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To: John Mansfield who wrote (18474)	6/16/1998 1:34:00 PM
From: John Mansfield	Respond to of 31646

Shipping, Shell,...., major newspapers: Embedded y2k awareness is on the rise... 'Subject: Ships was: regional blackouts and heavy brownout activity about 80% - Bennett Says, Dodd joins From: kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net (cory hamasaki)Date: 1998/06/16 ... On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:57:46, declan@well.com (Declan McCullagh) wrote: > In article <1998061514371200.KAA28498@ladder03.news.aol.com>, > GLC1173 <glc1173@aol.com> wrote: > > Because the "establishment" media has buried this problem, the sheeple don't > >pay attention to it now. Until I brought it up today on the local talk show, > >Y2K hadn't even come up on the show; that's how uninformed the public has been > >kept.> > Oh, yes, the "establishment" media who on an NBC talk show yesterday > predicted the Dow would drop to 7000. The "establishment" media who > yesterday in the Washington Post warned that a Y2K "apocalypse" is > possible. The "establishment" media who in last week's TIME devoted four > pages to it; Newsweek and USNews &WR in recent weeks have covered Y2K as Uh Dec, are you referring to the "Y2K, Haw-haw, I is an idiot" article in Newsweek?> well. Reuters and AP have been moving Y2K articles daily. Also Dec, a lot of the Y2K traffic never gets to the public. Most people don't have a NEXIS account (some do... because they're reporters, others do because their code runs parts of NEXIS). Reuters is doing a fine job, there's a lot of stuff on FEDWIRE, Press Release Wire, regional (aka continental, asia, africa, etc.) wire services, etc. I see 50-100 Y2K news items a day... sure, most are press releases... "XYZ corp, the leader in cluelessness is proud to announce that they will provide unskilled personnel who will pretend to be Y2K programmers..."But almost none of the good stuff shows up in the press. > Guess it's easier to (falsely) accuse the "establishment" media for > "burying" this problem then taking your own head out of the sand and > reading what's out there. > > -Declan You're doing a good job, no question, but there's lots of stuff that should be reported and isn't. I put the tip on Lloyds and www.ship2000.com on c.s.y2k about two weeks ago; however, the establishment media hasn't picked up the shipping story. They have access to all the sources, stringers, press releases. Here's a quote on ships, "..merchant ships have cut back on crews to such a extent that in the event of massive systems failure no backup would be available." The word isn't coming out where the public can see it. Or this quote from Malcom Gosling, Head of Electrical Services at Royal Dutch's Shell Trading and Shipping Company, "Shell has tested systems on Very Large Crude Carriers, and found failures in seven areas including radar system mapping, ballast monitoring, and ships performance monitoring." Spin away Pollyannas but please don't flame me, flame the Head of Electrical Services at Royal Dutch's Shell Trading and Shipping Company, call him clueless and tell him how big your brain is. I'll expand on this in the next WRP.... cory hamasaki 564 days, oh and the Exxon Valdeze doesn't exist anymore.

To: John Mansfield who wrote (18474)	6/16/1998 1:44:00 PM
From: John Mansfield	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 31646

Dependencies between utilities - by Rick Cowles; TAVA/RWBeck 'Subject: From The Horse's Mouth - Idaho Power From: rcowles@waterw.com (Rick Cowles) Date: 1998/06/13 Message-ID: <358c1e97.15684550@enews.newsguy.com> Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000 [More Headers][Subscribe to comp.software.year-2000] It's very easy to dismiss those you don't know, particularly if their viewpoint doesn't match with yours. How about if you hear it directly from one of the companies involved? If you have any technical questions or beefs about Idaho Power's outrageous claims, ask them, not me. (Need more? See the links page at euy2k.com). From Idaho Power idahopower.com >Considerable effort and resources are being dedicated to meeting the > objective of a problem free transition to the new millennium. However, it is > incumbent upon us to advise you that by its very nature, the electric utility > industry is very much dependent upon an electric grid that connects utilities > throughout the western portions of North America. This interconnection is > essential to the reliability and operational integrity of each connected utility. > This also means the failure of one electric utility in the interconnected grid > could cause the failure of others. In the context of the Year 2000 computer > problem, this interconnectivity compounds the challenge faced by the electric > utility industry. The company could do a very thorough and effective job of > becoming Year 2000 compliant and yet encounter difficulties supplying > services and energy because another utility in the interconnected grid failed to > achieve Year 2000 compliance. In this regard, the company is working > closely with other electric industry organizations concerned with reliability > issues and technical collaboration. -- Rick Cowles (Public PGP key on request) Now Shipping From AMAZON.COM: "Electric Utilities and Y2k" - The Book euy2k.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------