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To: tero kuittinen who wrote (704)	6/18/1998 7:47:00 PM
From: DaveMG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Tero, I'm sure you realized that I wasn't accusing you of anything other than being wrong about Q. I had just noticed these familiar terms all showing up together, coupled with Maurices Nazi remarks and Jacobs name, which to my trained rings like that of a clan member.Just got me wondering ,that's all. And don't get the wrong impression. I've only been to a synagogue a couple of times in my life.And we Americans are not as sensitive as you Euros think, although the public and political rhetoric could easily lead you to think otherwise. Let's leave this Q stuff alone for a while. We'll just have to wait and see how things unfold. Dave

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (704)	7/1/1998 12:29:00 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

Tero, Was this a 'yes'? Tero, you begged the question. Sometimes it is better to give stuff away in a loss-leader move or to generate a huge market following with a view to selling other things. That doesn't deny the value of IPR and Nokia does not simply give away all IPR. You are either being self-delusional which is bad for your investments or dishonest which is bad for your reputation. Qualcomm for example gives away Eudora Light. Not because they wish to deprive me of my easily-earned profit, but because people will like it, get hooked and switch to Eudora Pro. Fortunately, the USA has nukes, as well as a lot more besides and is overall the most powerful country on earth and will force compliance by the squalid little Scandinavian thieves on IPRs. What did you think of Ericsson's latest theatrics and accusations in regard to the standards committee chairman from Lucent. Pathetic is what I think. Did you note Gregg Powers comment how ironic it is that initially Qualcomm's royalty stream was denigrated as being trivial and now it is usurious and stopping cdma being used? Meanwhile people are signing up for it flat out. Or working out ways to steal it while claiming they don't need it anyway. Meanwhile, you can be assured that the standard will be cdma2000, and commercial product will be well in advance of the vaporware those grotty little crooks from Ericsson purport to be preparing. Motorola claims to be undergoing a personality change from their obnoxious ways according to Mr Galvin. I wonder if Ericsson can do it too? I doubt it as they are still in full arrogance mode. They'll have to wait until they humiliate themselves in front of the world, trying to keep the obsolete GSM system going while promoting 3GCDMA which they don't have. Stuck in the past by their own arrogance, malevolence, propaganda and thieving attitude. Meanwhile, Nokia continues to work wonders while preparing to head further down the Ericsson road to ruin in a few years. I'm sure they'll be cunning though and be leaping at a cdma2000 licence as soon as available, thus maintaining their excellent position in wireless for a long time to come. As a Qualcomm supporter, I hope they grab the European 3GW-CDMA-VW-UMTI-YETI tar baby and get stuck with Ericsson. I suspect not though. Maurice