SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Technology Stocks : 3DFX -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: FIFO_kid2 who wrote (4262)6/18/1998 1:29:00 PM
From: Laptev  Respond to of 16960
 
Have these "analysts" considered that if Diamond's orders have been reduced over the past few weeks - it could be because gamers are starting to get a taste of the better Voodoo II cards that are just starting to be available? Specifically the Canapus Voodoo II card, and several others.

Also even if earnings are only .50, .25, .25, .25 = $1.25 - the PE at $25/share is about 20. I don't think few people think they will do worse than this...

Having said that - does anyone have the name of a good stock index fund? <G>



To: FIFO_kid2 who wrote (4262)6/18/1998 1:30:00 PM
From: Chip Anderson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 16960
 
From Tom's Hardware:

(http://www.tomshardware.com)

"3Dfx - Voodoo Banshee

Next place to go to was of course 3Dfx. We had a nice presentation of Voodoo Banshee but pretty much all was under NDA. The only thing I want to say is that it will be an interesting product for the 2D/3D card market, it will not be Voodoo2 but it will certainly also not be another Voodoo Rush. I guess there's a lot more already on the web from others right now, but I maybe the first one to supply you with some hard testing data of the Voodoo Banshee very very soon."

Anyone recall the amount of FUD spreading that Tom was allowed to do with the competition boards he saw at the German show? Grrr...

Here's what Tom said about the competition at E3:

"Matrox - G200

After that we had trouble being on time at Matrox' booth. This time everything went perfect. Matrox must have placed someone at the booth with particularly good eye sight. I didn't even have to open my mouth and was already welcomed and asked to go inside. What a huge contrast to the disaster that happened at CeBIT, where my appointment crashed due to the inability of a front desk lady at doing her job right. The G200 will be out before the end of June in two flavors. As you certainly know already, there'll be a Mystique G200 and a Millennium G200, the first more focussed on gaming the second more focussed on high end professional use, but both with the same 3D features. I think that the G200 will be an interesting product due to it's pretty decent, although sub-Voodoo2, performance at a very high quality level. However, the G200 products will not exactly be cheap.

Videologic - PowerVR Second Generation

Unfortunately I couldn't make it to Videologic's booth, but they didn't take it too important themselves since I never received an invitation as well. Alex went there to find out that the whole project seems to be delayed. Alex was told that there was an actual .25 micron part available now, but he wasn't given any presentation. I don't know what the problems are Videologic is having, but they have to come out with PVRSG pretty soon if they want to make money with it. The competition is having some really scary products ready to go in a short while."

Old-timers should realize that Tom is eating his CeBit words here (where he went overboard claiming how fast and cheap these cards would be).

Finally,

"S3 - Savage3D

We didn't really make it to S3's booth at E3, but we had the chance inspecting this product at Computex and I'd like to write about it here. S3 was running four Pentium II 400 systems, one with a i740, one with a NVIDIA RIVA128, one with a 3Dfx Voodoo2 and one with a S3 Savage3D 3D card next to each other. When I saw the systems they all ran Turok's TMark, the downloadable demo edition. The frame rate was supposed to show that Savage3D is faster than any other 3D card, including the Voodoo2. However I was pretty puzzled about the actual numbers the Voodoo2 system showed. You can certainly remember that I ran all CPUs with a single Voodoo2 card for comparison reasons in my AMD K6-2 article. The Pentium II 400 scored a TMark of 62.5 fps. The comparison system put up by S3 scored only 42.5 fps, a lot less than I would expect. The first thing I changed was disabling 'wait for vertical retrace' in the Voodoo2 driver. This should really be disabled because it increases performance without showing any visible disadvantage. Any gamer disables this feature anyhow, so enabling it is far from realistic. This improved the frame rate of the Voodoo2 system already, but it still didn't score the 62.5 fps. The Savage3D ran at about 55 fps, hence definitely slower than the Voodoo2 in case you run it properly. The difference was even bigger when running Forsaken on both systems. I wonder how S3 can say that the Savage3D is
faster than Voodoo2 when using those methods of keeping the score of the Voodoo2 board at an unrealistically low level. As a matter of fact, Voodoo2 is definitely faster than what I saw of the Savage3D. I also talked to several OEMs, who didn't seem to be too impressed by the Savage3D as well, telling me about frequent system crashes of the Savage3D at in house presentations.

I am still waiting for a Savage3D evaluation card, but so far I was not that impressed by the Savage3D at all."

This confirms what I saw when I visited the S3 booth.

Chip