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To: aleta who wrote (9220)	6/19/1998 1:27:00 AM
From: Jon Tara	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 18444

OT, Aleta - yes, Ca has strong pollution laws. Unfortunately, we still have a serious problem, particularly in the inland valleys where the stuff collects, and inversion layers can hold it down for days. Most of it comes from automobiles. People are bitching about the new "treadmill" pollution testing, but it really is needed. Driving north from San Diego, you first notice the yellow to brown haze off-shore around Oceanside (at the south end of Camp Pendleton). Look north, and you will note that it gets darker. By the time you get to El Segundo, the air is brown, and visibility is limited. You can see open flames coming from the refinary stacks (I dunno what they are doing - I don't know nuthin about refining oil...) which is somehow reminiscient of the blast furnaces around Gary, Indiana. It really is a yuckky sight. You really do have to put the A/C on "internal". The air does have an odor to it. Everyone drives as fast as they can through that section. (Around 90mph, this past weekend...) El Segundo is truely the low point of any trip to L.A., as I'm sure anyone in the area will testify. It may well have some nice areas and be the headquarters of some important corporations. But what most of us remember is the nasty air and surreal appearance of that stretch of the 405. L.A. itself doesn't have as much of a tinge to the air, but it's unusual to be able to see the downtown buildings (which should be clearly visible) from surrounding areas. BTW, adjacency means little in an area where you get 4 weather reports (coastal, inland valleys, mountains, desserts) when you call on the phone, and all of them are usually wrong and constantly changing. The terain is so varied that in the same day you can go surfing, go skiing, and then go view bighorn sheep in the dessert. Needless to say, all this variation presents some interesting pollution challenges. FWIW, Rolling Hills Estates, "adjacent" to El Segundo, is on the Palas Verdes Peninsula (a BIG place), which juts out from the coastline, and is swept on 3 sides by ocean breezes. When I drive back to San Diego, I start coughing as I pass through Pendelton, as my lungs start clearing out the junk. An amazing testament to the resiliency of the environment, if you want to see clear air and clean water, drive 30 miles south of the border to Ensenada, BC Mex. It's rumored if you drive a bit further south, to about the center of Baja peninusula, up in the mountains, you will find the cleanest air on earth. (Lots of rumors pass as fact on this thread, allow me this one. :) )