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To: John Mansfield who wrote (18805)	6/19/1998 3:05:00 PM
From: John Mansfield	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 31646

'Fast Eddie Yardeni - from the latest WDC Y2k meeting; by Cory H. 'Partial report, Fast Eddie Yardeni, Carmichael. More later. ... Carmichael has addressed WDC Y2K twice. A year ago and last night, following Fast Eddie Yardeni. Fast Eddie lived up to his name, his talk was fast, funny, his lead joke was that he's given his stock Y2K speech a bunch of times and lately, awareness has gotten to the point that his opening remark is, "You guysin?" Fast Eddie appears to be at 3.5 on the c.s.y2k scale. To me, at 4.0, it seems that he doesn't quite get it... but there's hope. It explains why, to milne, Fast Eddie seems like a raving lunatic. Carmichael is a white haired, prematurely old'ish looking small boned person, but then most people look thin to me. He's an old new ager and talks like a neo-hippie. His talk was full of touchy-feely concepts but carefully masked in scientific looking graphs and QUADRANT CHARTs. He's monitoring the awareness and presented a diagram that matches my experience as a money grabbing consultant. The chart didn't have scales (touchy feely) but showed 1998, 1999, and 2000 with a mid height wavy line, the line represents required level of effort (I think of it as my billings.) There was another line that represented actual level of effort but he might have called it "meta social Y2K connectivity to psycho awareness." Whatever... the line was very low in 1998, rises in mid 1999 and goes asymtotic at 4Q 1999. I think of it as my billings. Whatever... he's wrong, it's gonna blow up before 4Q 1999. Maybe this summer, yeah, I'm guessing. ... something wicked this way comes. Three other speakers, I'll cover them and more shocking rate rumors from the meeting in the next DC Y2K WRP. cory hamasaki 560 full days until the singularity. ___ Subject: WDC meeting, was: Y2K Gurus Rate Y2K From: kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net (cory hamasaki)Date: 1998/06/19 Message-ID: <7kepWhCNP4qd-pn2-Pc84LkKLidwx@localhost> Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000[More Headers] [Subscribe to comp.software.year-2000]

To: John Mansfield who wrote (18805)	6/19/1998 3:09:00 PM
From: John Mansfield	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 31646

'Today, now, here in WDC, the Y2K war is raging.' 'Given the state of the remediation, I'm expecting significantly higher billing rates through 2003.' ________ On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:23:04, messig@performance-us.com (mce) wrote: Welcome back Mike!> Hello,> > As a stupid headhunter (but one who tries his best to avoid Y2K > recruiting) I couldn't agree more. Leaving people hanging is probably > the worst thing that recruiters do across the board.> > A couple of observations and then flame away:> > Many Y2K programmers are very out of touch with business reality. This > is America, even if it means the end of the world you won't get what > you think you are worth because corporations would then be allowing > you to control them. Corporations run the US and no mere workers > however important they are (or think they are) will ever be allowed to > dictate to them. It is only partially about money... Nope, nope, nope. We have a unique situation here, enterprise systems will break and there is 10 years of work for every code head out there. Corps might wish they are calling the shots but they aren't. Two years ago, it was different, there was a surplus of qualified personnel, companies could pick and choose. Just because the mid management in corporate America (and the rest of the world) thinks they can solve Y2K in the time left, doesn't mean that it can be done. Today, now, here in WDC, the Y2K war is raging. Senator Bennett and Congressman Horn are hammering on the agencies. The DOD's Inspector General is ripping the Pentagon's progress reports. This is just the verification of the situation as reported in the superprogrammer's grapevine over the last year. The business reality is you (the corp, the mid manager, the HR department) have 562 days before your internal and external infrastructure rips itself to pieces and if you are nice people and say the right things, one or two of us might be willing to help you out. > Corporate greed and Y2K contractor greed are currently in a dead> heat... No, it's corporate idiots as depicted in Dilbert and code-heads standing up for themselves for once. It's like this, during an extended hot spell, 105 degrees, 90% humidity, your air conditioner breaks down, so does everyone elses. Your kids are fussing, your spouse is surly and you're getting a bad rash in 'special' body places. You call HVAC contractor after HVAC contractor, they're all booked up... maybe I can pencil you in three weeks, nope, nope, can't help you pal, sorry.It will be like that but much, much worse. > Reality check: what percentage of humanity will ever earn $75+ an > hour? And you want how much? The reality check is: around here, the highschool dropouts who mow lawns get $65/hour... and we are nice to them, the retired geezers who fix small mechanical things get $49/hour; the sign at my car dealership says Labor: $75/hour. Oh, and I have a significant infrastructure, pay my own medical insurance, buy software, computers, etc. As for how much, it depends on the job, location, quals and reqs. > Have any of you considered how silly you will look if the sky doesn't> fall? No danger of that. We gearheads know how fragile software is. > Have any of you ever considered what the payback might be? Given the state of the remediation, I'm expecting significantly higher billing rates through 2003. > Just a few thoughts from your typical blood sucking recruiter. It's about a fair wage for critical, important work. It's just business, nothing personal.> > Mike Essig> PTG, Inc. cory hamasaki 562 days. ____ Subject: Re: Stupid Headhunter Tricks - anything else From: kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net (cory hamasaki)Date: 1998/06/18 Message-ID: <7kepWhCNP4qd-pn2-fVmvd6CdiJV6@localhost> Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000[More Headers] [Subscribe to comp.software.year-2000]

To: John Mansfield who wrote (18805)	6/19/1998 3:13:00 PM
From: John Mansfield	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 31646

CNN still not picking up Y2k seriously IMO. This is the search result of 'y2k' on the cnn site. Not many hits IMO. Might change this summer though. John _______ 'Java Immunizes Year 2000 Compliance Programs - Report - June 18, 1998 55% SANTA CLARA, U.S.A. (NB) -- Networking Roundup. Netroscope Inc. has released "Java Immunizes Year 2000 Compliance Programs," a new research report which the company says examines potential opportunities, risks, and pitfalls when using Java as part of the Year ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SGI's Irix 6.5 To Ship June 15 - June 12, 1998 48% MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A. (NB) -- By Sami Menefee, Newsbytes. The next generation of the Silicon Graphics Inc. [NYSE:SGI] operating system (OS) for Unix will begin to ship to existing customers on Monday, Newsbytes has learned. The Irix 6.5 OS will support up to 128 central ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Year 2000 Bug? What's That? Say 38% In US Survey - June 12, 1998 55% FRAMINGHAM, MASSACHUSETTS, U.S.A. (NB) -- By Craig Menefee, Newsbytes. CIO magazine has completed a survey that indicates more than a third of US residents have never heard of the Year 2000 bug. Of those who have, says the magazine, four out of five shrug it off as a ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Canada Schedules Series of Y2K Seminars - June 11, 1998 77% CANADA, OTTAWA, ONTARIO (NB) -- By Martin Stone. The Canadian Bankers Association (CBA) has launched a Canada-wide seminar series designed to help small businesses prepare for the Millennium Bug - the potential problems caused electronic systems change over to the Year 2000. ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Diebold to cut up to 600 workers; blames Y2K - June 5, 1998 81% CLEVELAND (Reuters) - Diebold Inc., the leading U.S. maker of automated teller machines, said Friday it would cut about 8.5 percent of its work force and may take a charge against earnings for a company realignment. The North Canton, Ohio-based ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Asia hasn't hurt small business, NAM survey shows - June 2, 1998 48% NEW YORK (CNNfn) - Small businesses so far have been largely unaffected by Asia's economic downturn, the Washington-based National Association of Manufacturers (NAM) said in survey results released Tuesday. Instead, NAM search.cnnfn.com