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To: Don Martini who wrote (17768)	6/20/1998 3:49:00 AM
From: Raymond James Norris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

I Beg to differ: everyone does not worship the same god Dan Martini: I would love to write out an explanation to my statement but I never made one as such you replied to. I didn't say "everyone worships the same God." I said "Christians and Muslims worship the same God." Huge difference. The dichotomy that sunders Jews and Moslems from christendom is the doctrine of the trinity. Jews and Moslems are monotheists, worshipping a god of single identity. In fact Moslems sometimes refer to members of christendom as "polytheists". Dan, this is insulting. You've lowered the "g" when referring to the God that Jews and Muslims worship. If there's only One God and all three religions worship One God, how can it be that there are "other gods." It can't. There is no "other god." The Jews and Muslims are monotheists and submit to One and only One God. The First Commandment, the most important, as you stated is that "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Muslims and Jews don't have "other gods" before God. This isn't a subjective subject. You're trying to differentiate in that Jehovah is different than the One and Only God. You say: "They shall know my name is Jehovah." And He announces: "I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images." "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." was the first commandment as found in Exodus 20. The third was: "Thou shalt not take the name of Jehovah thy God in vain." So you attempt to make the point that Jews and Muslims don't worship "Jehovah" but worship another God? If there is only One God, why should it matter if a group of people call him Jehovah and another Allah? How does "Allah" translate into English from the Arabic? It translates to "The One" as in "The One And Only One." So just because Muslims or Jews don't call God Jehovah does not mean they don't worship the same God. What is the most important belief in Islam? One that is repeated throughout Muslims' prayers (which are performed 5 times daily)? "I bear Witness that there is no God except for the One True God." Again, you see the similar wording that was echoed to Moses. I earlier told someone else that the Qur'an answers its critics. So you accuse Muslims of not worshiping the same God as Christians. A small excerpt: Say: Will ye dispute With us about God, seeing That He is our Lord And your Lord; and that we Are responsible for our doings And ye for yours; and that We are sincere in our faith In Him?" Quran 2:139 It seems strange to differentiate the two not only because "One God" cannot logically exist into "two gods" but because the "God" is the "same God." Jews believe in The God that sent Abraham. They believe in Hagar and Sarah, their sons, Isaac and Ishmael. They believe in Moses, his teachings, his miracles. The Christian believes that the <g> same God sent Abraham and Moses. And they also believe that he sent Jesus. The Muslim, no different, also believes that God sent the aforementioned. So, unless we've got gods copying each other here <g>, it is rather clear as day that all three religions are worshipping the Same and Only God. The differences stem from the acceptance of later Messengers/Prophets/Messiah. The Jew does not recognize Jesus as being God sent just as the Christian does not recognize Muhammad as being God sent. But all true scholars, all true people who think and look objectively admit rather quickly that all three religions worship the Same God. In fact, I find people who attempt to counter this point are doing so in fear of what may arise from admitting it. If the Jew or the Christian admits that each other is worshipping the same God, they must ask themselves whether or not a later message was sent and question the possibility. People like comfort and are comfortable believing what they were taught from Day 1. McKenzie is right, the equal and the same age, wouldn't they be brothers, triplets? Fathers and sons are not the same or equal. Jesus is never called "God the Son" in scripture; he's always the son of God, or, 77 times, "the son of man". Not sure what point you're trying to say here but I believe others here will disagree with it. Peace And Blessings of God, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful, be upon you. Ray