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To: John Mansfield who wrote (18838)6/20/1998 6:42:00 PM
From: John Mansfield  Respond to of 31646
 
'July 10, 1998 Y2K and the world.
August 7, 1998 Y2K and the church

One hour specials. They're working hard on getting the information out.

But monitor the 700 Club and CBN for schedule changes. I'm trying to
get them to work with the various local community projects and the
Cassandra Project.

I introduced Cassandra Project to the CBN crew at last night's WDC Y2K.

I spoke with CBN off camera for 15 minutes, they are taking Y2K very
seriously. They were also disheartened by the performance of the Feds
on Y2K issues.

If we soften the Y2K collapse, it will be because of CBN, Cassandra, and
the other grass roots efforts. It will not be because of the actions of
the bureaurocrats.

On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:46:42, "Jeffrey G. Bane" <brooksbane@msn.com> wrote:

> When?
>
> --
> "67X"
> NERO_B@my-dejanews.com wrote in message <6md0ue$v0v$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >FYI
> >
> >Just caught a blurb on cable. CBN will host a 1 hr special dedicated to the
> >Y2K situation.
> >
> >NERO B
> >

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Subject:
Re: CBN Y2K Special
Date:
19 Jun 1998 20:07:07 GMT
From:
kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net (cory hamasaki)
Organization:
HHResearch Co.
Newsgroups:
comp.software.year-2000
References:
1 , 2



To: John Mansfield who wrote (18838)6/20/1998 6:54:00 PM
From: John Mansfield  Respond to of 31646
 
'Time Standard Devices in trouble 08/22/99
asked in the Electric Utilities and Y2K Q&A Forum
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Subject: Bug in Truetime equipment I am a SCADA (computer automation) Technician for a large utility in California. I have been attending Michael Vessey's Y2k conferences. So when I heard about another Counter Register with a ROLLOVER problem I discovered after some research not only will most GPS navigational receivers need a software upgrade some will be unrepairable. The BUG is related to the 1024 Week counter on August 22, 1999 all GPS units will roll from 1023 to 0000 this may cause widespread failures on a large scale!
I started to wonder about all the TIME STANDARD receivers that are tied into most every Telecom site, mainframe computer and Frequency deviation controller for E_GRIDS. So I called the most popular manufacturer of these devices and spoke to the service department. Just as I suspected this is a "BIG PROBLEM"

Please investigate for yourselves and if you would post a response

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These are all the industries affected!!! truetime.com

Here is a service bulletin on Y2k truetime.com

GPS based time standard devices used to sync all kinds of stuff including the 60 HZ. of the E-Grid having a 1024 week rollover problem on Aug. 22 1999 truetime.com

Asked by Esteban Perez (deepthroat11@juno.com) on June 09, 1998.

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To: John Mansfield who wrote (18838)6/20/1998 6:59:00 PM
From: John Mansfield  Respond to of 31646
 
Utilities and 'Islanding'

'Manual override switches
asked in the Electric Utilities and Y2K Q&A Forum
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Hi:
I have a question concerning manual override switches. Given the fact (?) that not all, if any, utilities will be compliant by 2000, why not mandate installation of manual overrides so that thos e who are compliant can at least protect themselves from an "all grid" blackout? Does this make semse, or are there technical issues I am not aware of that would negate such a partial solution? Please respond.

Also, please key me in on how to get into the subject matter categories. When I entered this website (1st time) I did not see any, only references to them.

Thanks a lot

Alex Wallenwein

Asked by Alex Wallenwein (FourS3@aol.com) on June 11, 1998.
Answers
I don't have an answer, but have been wondering the same thing.
Answered by Ed Hughes (verypissedoff@hotmail.com) on June 14, 1998.
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Look at what the Utility industry is willing to admit to your Senate announcement of Senate commitee hearing on Utility's Y2k preparation senate.gov Msnbc Report msnbc.com
Utility Industry Rebuttal dailynews.yahoo.com

Forget about Electricity I work for a major U.S. electric utility and I plan on having Food Staples, Water and plenty of propane for my Camping Stove. What do you really need electricity for? Think like the Pioneers, Plan to Live like the Pioneers. Even if nothing happens it is always a good idea to be prepared for disaster anyway right? Besides the first thing that will happen in a worst case senario is reenergizing the power grid and that is my departments responsibilty. So I imagine there may be lots of O.T. in 2000...

Answered by Esteban Perez (deepthroat11@juno.com) on June 14, 1998.
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how will you, if theres no power get overtime? do you honestly think you will get paid? if your family is suffering from hunger can we count on you to be at work fixing this problem?
Answered by aaron (minamoto98@aol.com) on June 17, 1998.
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I will have made preparations for my family. As far as Overtime Pay goes it all depends on the severity of Y2k and its affect of the critical infastructure i.e. E-Grid. If the Black Helicopters come into our worksite and nationalize our company I don't think there is a clause in our agreement to file a valid grievence. However my company is putting alot of capitol investment into Y2k preparation. As of today my only worry is embedded systems at Power Plants which I am trying hard to find if we are compliant through inside contacts (no luck yet). A lesser worry is Nieghboring utilities affecting the E-Grid. The Grid is protected from other utilities taking us down. There are protection devices installed at all the foreign utility tie point circuit breakers. This causes ISLANDING which was a development from the East Coast Blackout in the 60's. Then it will be a matter of stabilizing our own Grid under our Jurisdiction. In any regard even though I am a "Union Puke" I will be on the ready 01/01/00 to step in and do whatever is required of me OT or NO OT!!!
Answered by Esteban Perez (deepthroat11@juno.com) on June 17, 1998.
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Our company, too, is investigating the possibility of islanding our service territory in the event the grid goes down. But, our engineers tell me that our 7 power plants and the nuclear station we own half of, might not have the flexibility to operate independently of the grid. Seems that islanding is a very touchy situation, where you've got to be able to match the load exactly (or almost exactly) in order to be able to stay on line. Otherwise, the protective devices kick in and trip the plant(s) offline. When connected to the grid, everything "averages out" a lot better then when you only have a few plants on line. Your load would have to pretty well match your generation output to be able to open the interconnects to the grid -- and they'd have to all be opened simultaneously. Also, there are agreements with the power pools that come into play, and there would be a great deal of hesitation to violate those agreements by islanding. A major concern is that of our large industrial customers having y2k problems and shedding their load -- if that happens too fast, the plants can't spin down the turbines fast enough and could trip. Best we all plan on keeping the grid UP!
Answered by Bud Park (plesant_park@wstnres.com) on June 18, 1998.
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I recently asked a senior person at my local utilities office about their Year 2000 preparation. To my pleasant surprise, he went line by line through each system and updated the status. It was not fluff and he even admitted that there were several systems that were not going to be ready.
Now the depressing news. I next asked him about our ability to drop off the grid and operate independently. He stated that he did not know the answer but would get back to me quickly.

Yesterday he called me back to tell me that the issue was brought up in a meeting but no solution could be identified.

I'm starting to worry...

Aaron

Answered by Aaron G. (akgorrell@yahoo.com) on June 19, 1998.

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To: John Mansfield who wrote (18838)6/20/1998 7:00:00 PM
From: John Mansfield  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 31646
 
Apparently there is demand for embedded systems y2k knowhow....

'Embedded Systems Seminars
asked in the Electric Utilities and Y2K Q&A Forum
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I have recently been tasked with overseeing the Ydk embedded systems review at my plant. I am just getting into this thing and need a lot of help getting up to speed. Does anyone know of any good seminars, user's groups, etc. that would give me a leg up on what I am in for and the things I should be looking for? Also, are there any good publications that describe the methodology on how to find embedded systems and how to test for their compliance?
Thanks,

Tom Carpenter tcarpen@entergy.com

Asked by Tom Carpenter (tcarpen@entergy.com) on June 08, 1998.
Answers
I am the Y2K embedded systems project engineer at WNP2 plant. I can tell you what we have done so far at WNP2. Regarding testing, we are bringing in CANUS Corp. to conduct 1 day seminars on Y2K testing (Ph. 949-855-8852, Contact: Ben Kirk). We have already conducted testing on our Recirc System Adjustable Speed Drives and our Digital Feedwater Level Control System. Our test engineer is Sal Ghbein, 509-377-4727.
Regarding things to look for, we contracted with Litton Enterprise Solutions (Contact: Greg Voboril, Ph. 805-782-0309) to conduct an initial assessment. They started with a database consisting of all plant components and narrowed it down to a list of "suspect" items based on a combination of their own knowledge and interviews with plant personnel (mostly system engineers). Our initial assessment is almost done, after which we will start a detailed assessment with the goal of determining Y2K readiness of all suspect items.

Of course, all this follows the methodology laid out in NEI/NUSMG 97-07. Any questions - you can call me at 509-377-4509 or Geoff Gelhaus, Y2K embedded systems project manager, at 509-377-4143.

Answered by Tom Myers (twmyers@wnp2.com) on June 11, 1998.
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Contribute an answer to "Embedded Systems Seminars"

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To: John Mansfield who wrote (18838)6/20/1998 7:02:00 PM
From: John Mansfield  Read Replies (6) | Respond to of 31646
 
'I need to contact Rick Cowles (as quickly as possible).

asked in the Electric Utilities and Y2K Q&A Forum
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I need to contact Rick Cowles as quickly as possible. Can anyone furnish his phone number, address, or even the name of his employer? My e-mail address is lritchli@awwa.org. My phone number is (303) 347-6273. Thanks!
Asked by Lance Ritchlin (lritchli@awwa.org) on June 03, 1998.

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