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To: Scott Mc who wrote (134)	6/23/1998 1:10:00 AM
From: Apex	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 512

Scott: """I'm always concerned when a company has an 800 nbr for investor relations.""" Please elaborate on your thoughts. Apex

To: Scott Mc who wrote (134)	6/23/1998 7:50:00 AM
From: Brad	Respond to of 512

Scott, thanks for your comments re KIK...don't worry, I don't get offended. Re product, it appears bicycle tires may be a large market...they're talking to someone in China. You are correct about the cash...but how else do any of these juniors do it? Projections show they should be profitable next quarter, so that will help. I don't follow your comment re the 800 number for Investor Relations -- why is that a negative? Anyway, thanks for the thoughts...what do the others think?...Brad

To: Scott Mc who wrote (134)	6/23/1998 8:06:00 PM
From: Gordo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 512

Scott, I took a quick look at KIK as well and came to the same conclusion but for different reasons. To me the most telling number was the fact that the gross margin is only 18%. They are going to have to sell a ton of product before they ever see a profit with those kind of margins. I am also curious about your fascination with price/sales ratios. I personally prefer price/cash flow or even price/earnings over price/sales. Show me a good company that is able to put dollars on the bottom line and I'll take it any day over a company with all the sales in the world that is bleeding red ink. Just MHO. Anyone else have thoughts on this topic?