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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14712)	6/23/1998 2:23:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Respond to of 77400

It appears that the Cisco code which is inconsistent with IP standards is the only thing that will slow them down. Wrong. BAY is the result of botched mergers and few believe that Nortel will successfully merge with BAY. At the very least, Nortel will be handicapped and distracted by the merger, falling farther behind in a race it is already losing.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14712)	6/23/1998 2:39:00 PM
From: aladin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 77400

Kenneth, Inconsistent with standards? Name the standard! You are simply reitterating what a VP of strategy at a voice company said, hardly an IP guru. We support every IP routing standard available, plus some proprietary standards that make networking more cost-effective for our customers. BGP4, OSPF, ISIS, RIP v2, RIPv1, and even EGP - all standards supported by cisco. Not one of our competitors comes close to the number of RFC standards supported. When customers choose a proprietary protocols like IGRP and EIGRP all the competitors scream because they lack these inventions. Maybe we should patent them? :-) John

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14712)	6/23/1998 3:11:00 PM
From: The Phoenix	Respond to of 77400

Thanks to John for responding to this. You should be careful about posting articles that provide erroneous data regarding Cisco's adherance to standards. This is complete bogus information. Gary

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14712)	6/23/1998 4:00:00 PM
From: Cihangir Akyol	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 77400

> > It appears that the Cisco code which > is inconsistent with IP standards is the > only thing that will slow them down. > You obviously do not know much about networking standards. Cisco supports pretty much all routing protocols, plus more.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14712)	6/23/1998 4:19:00 PM
From: Eric	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 77400

Kenneth, Sadly IMHO the purchase of Bay will slow NT down. I guess what convinced my mind Cisco would win this war is LU and NT's lack of "vision" of Cisco's power in networking. Many people saw this coming years ago and is the reason I put the majority of my investment dollars in Cisco in 93. LU and NT are "drugged up" by the investment of analog voice technology and have slowly adopted digital standards over the years. The RBOC's and independent carriers are now beginning to jump on the IP juggernaut. The race from now on will certainly be interesting and a lot of turmoil will be sure to follow. Don't get me wrong, LU and NT are good companies but I don't see them changing quickly enough to compete in this new era of communications. Eric